Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: matter
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20498#msg-20498
I do remember this thread popping up every now and then. I have been around for
quite some time in the computer world. I actually h
On 2/4/11 5:14 PM, "no-re...@cfengine.com" wrote:
> Forum: Cfengine Help
> Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released - still in /var
> Author: Ed
> Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20482#msg-20482
>
> I can understand the /var location - the binaries are the
Well said Mark.
The location of the files configurable. What more is there to say?
Put them wherever you think best.
Changing the default may make sense for 'this' OS today but that could
change with the next OS tomorrow. Mark made the best decision he could
back in the dark ages of computing
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: mark
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20485#msg-20485
Curiously everything old is eventually new again. Although disk is now cheap,
we are now starting to see a return to shared storage
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released - still in /var
Author: Ed
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20482#msg-20482
I can understand the /var location - the binaries are there for reference,
AFAIK, so noexec should not be a problem on
> ,
>
> I'm just telling you what the world was like when I wrote Cfengine and why
> the choices were made. The work directory is configurable, so go ahead and
> put these things where you like! I'm not holding anyone back!
>
That is a good remark. I do not use the packages provided by cfengin
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: Seva Gluschenko
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20480#msg-20480
Mark,
I know it is ;) We're discussing the best place to put it in packages, don't we?
BTW, I'm pretty sure you've change
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: mark
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20479#msg-20479
Seva,
I'm just telling you what the world was like when I wrote Cfengine and why the
choices were made. The work directory is confi
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: Seva Gluschenko
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20478#msg-20478
Come on, Mark. Nowadays NFS mounts are rather used for sharing data and not
system binaries, since storage is cheaper than
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: neilhwatson
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20477#msg-20477
Yes, I did understand your meaning Mark. However, if /usr was gone I think
you'd be stuck anyway since Cf would have no acces
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: Seva Gluschenko
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20476#msg-20476
Doing some Unix administration since 1997, I'm bit too old to be considered a
kid ;)
Nevertheless, if we could have been
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: mark
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20475#msg-20475
Perhaps I failed to make what seemed like an obvious connection -- when the
network goes down and /usr or /opt are NFS mounted, your
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: neilhwatson
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20474#msg-20474
Mark, are those kids on your lawn too? If we were to standardize on something
I would prefer /opt/ and place outputs and othe
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:02:34PM -0500, Mark Burgess wrote:
>
>The FHS gets thrown in my face from time to time (see the FAQ) but what
Probably by me. :-)
>folks don't seem to realize is that is is just a collection of pretty ad
>hoc selections of common usage discovered by some random people,
Amen to that. ;)
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Mark Burgess wrote:
>
> The FHS gets thrown in my face from time to time (see the FAQ) but what
> folks don't seem to realize is that is is just a collection of pretty ad
> hoc selections of common usage discovered by some random people, and a
> de
> So that's about the past. :)
>
> I'm interested in looking ahead to new features such as knowledge management,
> system integration / cloud integration, mechanical promises, etc.
>
Aleksey, good lord, you actually listen to these things I say! :-D
The FHS gets thrown in my face from time to time (see the FAQ) but what
folks don't seem to realize is that is is just a collection of pretty ad
hoc selections of common usage discovered by some random people, and a
declaration of intent to not make the variety of conventions any worse.
A few spec
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, wrote:
> Forum: Cfengine Help
> Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
> Author: mark
> Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20467#msg-20467
>
> The original reason for choosing /var (and you kids are probably too young to
>
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jesse Becker wrote:
>
> Theoretically, Linux systems should use the FHS:
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
>
Great link, thanks, Jesse! I will check this out.
Please do be aware that Cfengine runs on many Unix systems, not only Linux.
One of the unique cha
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: mark
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20467#msg-20467
The original reason for choosing /var (and you kids are probably too young to
remember ;-)) was that /var is generally the only file
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: Seva Gluschenko
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20466#msg-20466
There's really no big point in using /var/cfengine/bin, since /usr exists
everywhere on Linux and other Unix distributions
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 02:24:27PM -0500, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:56 AM, wrote:
>> Forum: Cfengine Help
>> Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
>> Author: berntjernberg
>> Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20454#msg-20454
>>
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:56 AM, wrote:
> Forum: Cfengine Help
> Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
> Author: berntjernberg
> Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20454#msg-20454
>
> Hi,
>
> I usually use /opt, /etc/opt and /var/opt for binaries or scripts
I my opinion I prefer the BSD method. For example OS binaries are in /bin
or /sbin, OS configs in /etc, OS startup-scripts in /etc/rc.d. Third party
stuff gets the /usr/local prefix, so it becomes /usr/local/bin,
/usr/local/etc and /usr/local/etc/rc.d. I try to use this nice and clean
practice on L
Forum: Cfengine Help
Subject: Re: Cfengine Help: Cfengine 3.1.4 is released
Author: berntjernberg
Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,20445,20454#msg-20454
Hi,
I usually use /opt, /etc/opt and /var/opt for binaries or scripts not supplied
by the os-vendor.
Any thoughts about tha
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