Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Massimo Belgrano
You are right also if last Offer of fivetech is started from Aug 20, 2009 and reading post i think that about 20 user have completed works/request copies Fivewin for [x]Harbour have 69000 messages (90.00 total) so is a big comunity 1500 user This comunity know and use Harbour so i think a way of co

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Viktor Szakáts
I noticed that Antonio Linares have a right idea request contribute in the wiki for fivetech product and pay with fivetech product and seem also having a good response Compliment! What can we do something of similar? Can we search any kind of collaboration with Fivetech? FiveTech wants to outsou

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Massimo Belgrano
I noticed that Antonio Linares have a right idea request contribute in the wiki for fivetech product and pay with fivetech product and seem also having a good response Compliment! What can we do something of similar? Can we search any kind of collaboration with Fivetech? >Help to complete the wik

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Very Good Thanks! 2009/10/13 Przemyslaw Czerpak : > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote: > > in summary it means that the only one method to generate correct > dependencies list which will always work is compiler (or code > which fully replicates compiler and PP behavior). > I'll add to comp

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Roberto Lopez
Przemyslaw Czerpak wrote: in summary it means that the only one method to generate correct dependencies list which will always work is compiler (or code which fully replicates compiler and PP behavior). I'll add to compiler support for such functionality. It will work like -M in GCC. For hbmk2 w

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Przemyslaw Czerpak wrote: > I'll add to compiler support for such functionality. > It will work like -M in GCC. > For hbmk2 which uses embedded Harbour compiler I also add support > for function which will return list of dependencies instead of > sending them to

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Przemyslaw Czerpak
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote: >> Please also remember that Harbour supports also #pragma __[c]streaminclude >> which should also be detected and in the future may support some other >> extensions like using compiler switches in #if expressions, i.e.: >> #if enabled( -kh ) >> #in

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Viktor Szakáts
It has to be fully integrated with compiler because included files may depend on conditional compilation so you have to activate compiler with all compiler switches which are used for normal compilation (plus switch(es) which enable autodependent checking) to preproces .prg files otherwise it w

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-13 Thread Przemyslaw Czerpak
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote: Hi, > I can't solve the PP parser part, but if such > function gets added to core, I'm ready to add support > for it in hbmk2. > Przemek, do you think that such function would be possible > to implement? > __PP_INCLUDELIST( , ) -> > (or something with

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Przemyslaw Czerpak wrote: The text is clear for me but it's not clear for me what you used so far... Windows definitions can be (optionally) stored in external text files with '.fmg' extension. This is very useful, ie, to editing purposes (I've created a visual editor to do that). This

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Przemek, The text is clear for me but it's not clear for me what you used so far. In my opinion such functionality can be implemented only inside PP and all tools which tries to make it without replicating whole PP logic with all compiler predefined settings and macros are buggy by definition

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Massimo Belgrano wrote: about hbmk2 can you post a little sample (also with minigui) so i will try Facts are that Viktor have modified each error post here regarding hbmk2 I've explained in a post on Sunday: http://www.hmgforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5494#p5494 Thank you. [ Sorry, but I'm n

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Przemyslaw Czerpak
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Roberto Lopez wrote: Hi, >> about hbmk2 can you post a little sample (also with minigui) so i will try >> Facts are that Viktor have modified each error post here regarding hbmk2 > I've explained in a post on Sunday: > http://www.hmgforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5494#p5494 The t

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Massimo Belgrano wrote: about hbmk2 can you post a little sample (also with minigui) so i will try Facts are that Viktor have modified each error post here regarding hbmk2 I've explained in a post on Sunday: http://www.hmgforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5494#p5494 Regards, Roberto. __

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
more important see facts that interpreter post Facts are an active community that want share his experiences for having a better product Your Point of View is important because is similar to a lot of user Same decision (no light version) is result of various steep I suggest Viktor trasform prev po

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
On 2009 Oct 12, at 23:13, Roberto Lopez wrote: Viktor: I'm very sad because your interpretation of the facts. Maybe, as Angel said, it could be because idiomatic barriers (English is not my native tongue). Anyway, the facts, are that I've been working during all the weekend to make hbmk

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Massimo Belgrano
I agree with Angel about idiomatic barriers (English is not my native language). more important see facts that interpreter post Facts are an active community that want share his experiences for having a better product Your Point of View is important because is similar to a lot of user Same decisi

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Viktor: I'm very sad because your interpretation of the facts. Maybe, as Angel said, it could be because idiomatic barriers (English is not my native tongue). Anyway, the facts, are that I've been working during all the weekend to make hbmk2 to work with HMG and published a build containing

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
I understand your POV, but simply I think differently. The last thing that I want to say todoay about that, is that we could think Harbour future as Linux one. There is dozens (hundreds?) of distros. As you know, each distro has his own group of developers that creates an 'special' one, su

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Viktor, I want to put a final point to this discussion (at least, by now). I understand your POV, but simply I think differently. The last thing that I want to say todoay about that, is that we could think Harbour future as Linux one. There is dozens (hundreds?) of distros. As you know, eac

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
For reference, here is my posted solution which "plugs into" current HMG distro: [ NOTE: the batch file is only needed to keep current "feel" of the distro, the .hbc could be places in any standard place instead and let it be automatically or manually picked. ] --- BATCH\hbmk2.bat @set PATH=%~dp

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Roberto, If your goal is to supply a compact package for users, IMO you should simply just not include Harbour itself and mingw, but rather simply install into existing Harbour install and provide links to Harbour installer to users. Because Harbour distribution is not compact :) Well, it

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Przemyslaw Czerpak wrote: > My personal experience is that the most often the sources of user problems are wrongly synced with Harbour core code build scripts in different add on libraries. <...> I respect you and your work a lot (the same as Viktor). Is not my intention to disturb you and

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Viktor: Prior to continue, I must point that this is a 'friendly' message. I respect you and your work. You (among others) made possible Harbour resurrection possible, when the project was almost 'dead'. I don't agree with your approach to distribute crippled Harbour. Maybe we should have ou

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Great! Good that will export entire site from wiki to a PDF Now i suggest a little Diffferent structure >From actual #Homepage,Hmg, # Compiler Options,# ADSClearAOF(),# The idle states,# The Garbage Collector # Harbour Extensions,# License,# ADSCustomizeAOF() How use ? Quick Start # Compiler

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Przemyslaw Czerpak
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Roberto Lopez wrote: Hi, > All Harbour and contrib libraries are 'intact' (exactly as are > distributed). The same applies for 'harbour.exe' and basic docs. So, bugs > in Harbour compiler found by HMG users should be not a problem for Harbour > developers. My personal exp

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Thanks Roberto. I think though, that this still isn't a complete Harbour distro, as its missing crucial parts as hbmk2, hbrun, hbi18n, .dlls and INSTALL doc. Which means the even the most important pointers and tools are missing which are used as a starting point in normal Harbour usage and suppor

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Roberto Lopez
Viktor: Thanks Roberto. I think though, that this still isn't a complete Harbour distro, as its missing crucial parts as hbmk2, hbrun, hbi18n, .dlls and INSTALL doc. Which means the even the most important pointers and tools are missing which are used as a starting point in normal Harbour usage

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread S Rathinagiri
Massimo Belgrano wrote: Very Good news I am sure that hmg user base will help in having more realibility Please include hbmk2 in harbour distribution About DOC you must kwnow: Doc on Harbour site is a way hbdoc2 is another way not jet ready a hpl documentation came from HMG extended Harbour Onl

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Very Good news I am sure that hmg user base will help in having more realibility Please include hbmk2 in harbour distribution About DOC you must kwnow: Doc on Harbour site is a way hbdoc2 is another way not jet ready a hpl documentation came from HMG extended Harbour Online Help Manual at http://

Re: [Harbour] Harbour Forum and Wiki.

2009-10-12 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Roberto, We published an experimental HMG release based on 100% 'pure' Harbour 2.0 build subset. So, supporting Harbour compiler bundled in HMG, shouldn't be a problem to Harbour developers (http://www.hmgforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=879 ). Another interesting Massimo idea is to have a Wi