On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Roberto Lopez wrote:

Hi,

> All Harbour and contrib libraries are 'intact' (exactly as are 
> distributed). The same applies for 'harbour.exe' and basic docs. So, bugs 
> in Harbour compiler found by HMG users should be not a problem for Harbour 
> developers.

My personal experience is that the most often the sources of user problems
are wrongly synced with Harbour core code build scripts in different add
on libraries.
Recently hbmk2 strongly reduced such "bug" reports and I'm very happy
from that. I think that also HMG users can benefit from it.

Additionally you cannot say that sth is not necessary for HMG users
as long as you do not give them a chance to try it. I.e. I do not
believe that non of HMG users have ever tried to create multi language
application looking for I18N support. If you do not include hb18n
or hbmk2 (it can be used to replace hb18n) then you are not giving
them very important functionality which allows to easy create metalanguage
application. I also do not believe that non of HMG users have ever needed
to execute some .prg code as scripts. Such functionality is given by
hbrun which can execute .hrb files but also directly .prg files, i.e.:
   hbrun mycode.prg
and unlike all other script like tools for .prg code hbrun is fully
functional compiler with _ALL_ harbour compiler features which compiles
.prg code on the fly giving the same PCODE as stand alone Harbour compiler
and then executes it with full HVM speed.
Additionally hbrun can be executed without parameters and in such case
it works like .dot command prompt xbase interpreter.
I think you should give HMG users a chance to try such tools so they can
decide if they really need them or not and it should not be your arbitrary
decision. Now Harbour included in HMG is seriously reduced in basic
functionality, i.e. it does not even contain Harbour shared libraries.

> The problem is that we use commands to do that, that are translated by PP 
> to #includes.
> So, HBMK do not recognize them as include files and changes do not force 
> recompilation of prgs.

Do you use tool which emulates Harbour PP use to analyze .prg files
for automatic dependencies checking?
Can you write sth more about it? What exact functionality do you need?

best regards,
Przemek
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