Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Björn Höfling
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:16:47 -0600 Brett Gilio wrote: > Bummer, > > Did they provide any more feedback so that we can be more prepared > next year as more likely candidates? No. I think in general there is the problem of high demand and only a fixed size of stands. I'm not sure if there is an

Re: Outreachy project infrastructure

2018-11-23 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Björn Höfling writes: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:18:54 -0300 > Laura Lazzati wrote: > >> Hi again! >> >> I went through past emails and this new ones. >> >> In a previous mail, Bjorn suggested using the wiki - >> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix - for my proposed timeline >> and the dec

Move Clojure and Femtolisp

2018-11-23 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
Hi! I've noticed that Femtolisp and Clojure are part of lisp.scm. In my opinion Femtolisp should belong to scheme.scm, while Clojure should probably end up in a separate clojure.scm file. Thoughts? -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Come back and graphical installer

2018-11-23 Thread L p R n d n
Hello, Sorry for the late answer. I can confirm it works for me too. ;) I won't add any suggestions for now. Thorsten already did a great job. (Replacing the Guix logo by the GuixSD one could be nice tho. To avoid propagating terms misconceptions.) But I think we could already start talking abo

Re: Come back and graphical installer

2018-11-23 Thread L p R n d n
L p R n d n writes: > Hello, > > Sorry for the late answer. I can confirm it works for me too. ;) > I won't add any suggestions for now. Thorsten already did a great job. > (Replacing the Guix logo by the GuixSD one could be nice tho. To avoid > propagating terms misconceptions.) > > But I t

Re: Outreachy project infrastructure

2018-11-23 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello guix, To reduce confusion I propose to focus on the graph when the need arises to make the process more structured. Also that was created when I had programmed screen recordings in mind, so the presentation style videos do not map well to it. It also has several repeating subgraphs, so if we

Re: Outreachy project infrastructure

2018-11-23 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Gábor, > I would propose the following: do not show slides and screen recording > at the same time, and make a transition between them > when we switch. The slides are turned into a video segment; the terminal session recordings as well. The final step is just to concatenate them to a singl

Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread L p R n d n
Hello, I started to package Arcan[1], mostly for fun and trying to learn a bit more about Guile/Guix. (maybe hoping for guile bindings too. :D) It mostly works, at least builds, but a few questions arised so here I am. I join the current WIP patch just in case. 1. Using 'guix lint', I get the sa

Re: Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread L p R n d n
Huummm... Hello again, Forgot something again. :/ So one last question (let's hope). Arcan load 'appl's which are basically applications written in Lua. They don't need to be built, just copied to be used as is, so they don't produce binaries. To start an appl with arcan, you need to 'arcan $

Re: Outreachy project infrastructure

2018-11-23 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus ezt írta (időpont: 2018. nov. 23., P, 12:02): > > > Hi Gábor, > > > I would propose the following: do not show slides and screen recording > > at the same time, and make a transition between them > > when we switch. > > The slides are turned into a video segment; the

Re: Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> 3.a. For qemu, I fear the produced binaries would conflict with the > original ones. Is there something we can do in the build process to deal > with that can of thing or sould we just expect the user deal with it on > its own as Guix doest it very well on its own? The specialized qemu should b

Re: supporting EOL ruby in Guix

2018-11-23 Thread Pjotr Prins
I think we can now drop the unsupported versions. I was using 1.8 until quite recently ;). These packages can be put into channels for those who need that. Pj. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 03:57:29AM +0800, Alex Vong wrote: > Hello, > > I find out that ruby 1.8, 2.1 and 2.2 are all EOL. Do we still i

Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 09:02:42AM +0100, Björn Höfling wrote: > On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:16:47 -0600 > Brett Gilio wrote: > > > > Bummer, > > > > Did they provide any more feedback so that we can be more prepared > > next year as more likely candidates? > > No. > > I think in general there is

Re: Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread L p R n d n
Thanks Pierre for your quick answer! Pierre Neidhardt writes: >> 3.a. For qemu, I fear the produced binaries would conflict with the >> original ones. Is there something we can do in the build process to deal >> with that can of thing or sould we just expect the user deal with it on >> its own

Re: Outreachy project infrastructure

2018-11-23 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Gábor, > I would still consider having a placeholder image to cover for the > possibility that there might be parts where no slide or screen > recording is shown. But we might make it a policy to always show > something. WDYT? There should always be something on the screen. If the topic cha

Re: Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> My bad here, I should have been clearer in my explaination. The patched > Qemu is not used during build but during runtime. From my understanding, > it's provided as a way to start X applications under Arcan. The patch is > probably just used to give qemu the ability to communicate with Arcan >

Re: supporting EOL ruby in Guix

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Pjotr Prins skribis: > I think we can now drop the unsupported versions. I was using 1.8 > until quite recently ;). These packages can be put into channels for > those who need that. People can also resort to “inferior packages” if they want to mix software from the past with current software (i

Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Pjotr Prins skribis: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 09:02:42AM +0100, Björn Höfling wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:16:47 -0600 >> Brett Gilio wrote: [...] >> Anyway, it was a first trial, we didn't put too much effort into it and >> we can now just concentrate on the 2 Guix-days before FO

Re: Move Clojure and Femtolisp

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > I've noticed that Femtolisp and Clojure are part of lisp.scm. > In my opinion Femtolisp should belong to scheme.scm, while Clojure > should probably end up in a separate clojure.scm file. > > Thoughts? No opinion here. What do Andy Patterson and Alex Vong thi

Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello Guix! Today, it’s been six years already! https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2012-11/msg0.html ‘git shortlog -s’ says 231 people gave some of their time to Guix, and I think we can congratulate ourselves for six years of good hacking and great human interactions.

Re: Merging ‘wip-newt-installer’ in master?

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Mathieu Othacehe skribis: >> If you add it to /etc/environment (through >> ‘session-environment-service-type’) it should be fine no? > > LANG is already part of /etc/environment variables which are loaded by > the login program which is PAM aware. The installer isn't PAM aware and > it re

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 02:46:12PM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > Hurrayy!!! Totally. I remember Ludo's first presentation at FOSDEM and I was sold on the spot :) Pj.

Re: Getting ‘core-updates’ merged

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis: > There are still failures out there! > > https://hydra.gnu.org/eval/110331?full=1#tabs-still-fail > > The above list is slightly outdated so I’m restarting an evaluation on > hydra.gnu.org. > > A prominent issue is LibreOffice: > > https://lists.gnu.org

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Laura Lazzati
Happy birthday Guix :)

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Happy birthday Guix! Laura Lazzati ezt írta (időpont: 2018. nov. 23., P, 15:12): > > Happy birthday Guix :) > >

Re: Move Clojure and Femtolisp

2018-11-23 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello, Pierre Neidhardt ezt írta (időpont: 2018. nov. 23., P, 10:25): > > Hi! > > I've noticed that Femtolisp and Clojure are part of lisp.scm. > In my opinion Femtolisp should belong to scheme.scm, while Clojure > should probably end up in a separate clojure.scm file. > > Thoughts? > I have no

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Ludo', all, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Today, it’s been six years already! Happy birthday, Guix! \o/ ...and my sincerest thanks to Ludo', Ricardo, and every single other contributor over the past 6 years. Y'all built something beautiful. Kind regards, T G-R

Re: Merging ‘wip-newt-installer’ in master?

2018-11-23 Thread Mathieu Othacehe
Hey! > Now, why does the default value of LANG matter anyway? I mean, the > installer starts out with a default language, presumably English, right? > So you can simply add, say, (setenv "LC_ALL" "en_US.utf8") when starting > the installer, can’t you? Yup its a way, but in the higly improbable

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Konrad Hinsen
On 23/11/2018 14:41, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Today, it’s been six years already! Let's have a party then: (define-public guix-birthday-cake   (package     (name "guix-birthday-cake")     (synopsis "A birthday cake for Guix")     (build-system birthday-cake)     (arguments `(#:number-of-can

Re: Move Clojure and Femtolisp

2018-11-23 Thread Alex Vong
Hello Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Hi! > > I've noticed that Femtolisp and Clojure are part of lisp.scm. > In my opinion Femtolisp should belong to scheme.scm, while Clojure > should probably end up in a separate clojure.scm file. > > Thoughts? For femtolisp, I think we could move it if i

Re: 03/05: guix: self: Do not install (gnu system install).

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, guix-comm...@gnu.org skribis: > mothacehe pushed a commit to branch wip-newt-installer > in repository guix. > > commit 7b4729ad9eeb83280626af95881746d0072e14e8 > Author: Mathieu Othacehe > Date: Fri Nov 23 11:22:35 2018 +0900 > > guix: self: Do not install (gnu system install). >

Re: Move Clojure and Femtolisp

2018-11-23 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> For clojure, I move it from 'java.scm' to 'lisp.scm' because it is a > lisp. But is 'lisp.scm' actually for common lisp only? It's customary to refer to Common Lisp as "lisp" only. All package in lisp.scm are Common Lisp packages. Clojure is effectively a different language and won't run any

Re: Merging ‘wip-newt-installer’ in master?

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Mathieu Othacehe skribis: >> Now, why does the default value of LANG matter anyway? I mean, the >> installer starts out with a default language, presumably English, right? >> So you can simply add, say, (setenv "LC_ALL" "en_US.utf8") when starting >> the installer, can’t you? > > Yup its a way,

Re: Move Clojure and Femtolisp

2018-11-23 Thread Alex Vong
Pierre Neidhardt writes: >> For clojure, I move it from 'java.scm' to 'lisp.scm' because it is a >> lisp. But is 'lisp.scm' actually for common lisp only? > > It's customary to refer to Common Lisp as "lisp" only. > I see! [...] > > Clojure is effectively a different language and won't run any

Re: Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 23/11/2018 13.14, L p R n d n wrote: 1. Using 'guix lint', I get the same error for all packages: 'the source file name should contain the package name' which I don't understand. So what's wrong? I had one such case, where it has been pointed out to me, that using git-fetch results in a cry

Re: Membership disabled due to excessive bounces

2018-11-23 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
My membership was disabled again today. Mark, could you provide me the .eml? -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Packaging Arcan

2018-11-23 Thread swedebugia
Hi :) On 2018-11-23 13:32, L p R n d n wrote: Huummm... Hello again, Forgot something again. :/ So one last question (let's hope). Arcan load 'appl's which are basically applications written in Lua. They don't need to be built, just copied to be used as is, so they don't produce binaries. To

Re: Membership disabled due to excessive bounces

2018-11-23 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: My membership was disabled again today. Sorry, this was probably my fault this time. In the Guix birthday thread. I've created a DMARCless subdomain to use on these lists until GNU fixes their listserv, and configured mu4e to use it automatically. That unf

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Brett Gilio
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello Guix! > > Today, it’s been six years already! > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2012-11/msg0.html > > ‘git shortlog -s’ says 231 people gave some of their time to Guix, and I > think we can congratulate ourselves for six years of good

Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Brett Gilio
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello! > > Pjotr Prins skribis: > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 09:02:42AM +0100, Björn Höfling wrote: >>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:16:47 -0600 >>> Brett Gilio wrote: > > [...] > >>> Anyway, it was a first trial, we didn't put too much effort into it and >>> we can now jus

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread swedebugia
On 2018-11-23 14:41, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Hello Guix! Today, it’s been six years already! Wow, time flies fast! I'm very excited and glad to be a part of this community. Thanks! I hope for a bright future for this project and for the effects of reproducibility on the cost and ability of s

Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello Brett, Brett Gilio skribis: > Who among us is planning on going to FOSDEM19? I might see if I can > procure plane tickets and rooms for my wife and I, and buy a beer or > something for a few of us. Also, sorry I am out of the loop here, but > what is "Guix days"? These are 2 days to chat

Re: Happy birthday!

2018-11-23 Thread Alex Vong
Gábor Boskovits writes: > Happy birthday Guix! > Laura Lazzati ezt írta (időpont: 2018. > nov. 23., P, 15:12): >> >> Happy birthday Guix :) >> >> Happy birthday Guix! :) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Brett, Brett Gilio wrote: Who among us is planning on going to FOSDEM19? I might see if I can procure plane tickets and rooms for my wife and I, and buy a beer or something for a few of us. Also, sorry I am out of the loop here, but what is "Guix days"? Great fun. Here's more information[0]

Re: NPM importer

2018-11-23 Thread swedebugia
On 2018-11-22 02:02, swedebugia wrote: Hi On 2018-11-22 00:22, swedebugia wrote: snip A graph of all npm packages and top packages is also available: https://exploring-data.com/info/npm-packages-dependencies/ This graph is in-degree and does not consider versions. It is useful only to see t

Re: Membership disabled due to excessive bounces

2018-11-23 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > My membership was disabled again today. > > Mark, could you provide me the .eml? It was caused by a message from Thorsten. Gandi Mail have frequently been rejecting Thorsten's messages, with the following reason given: Reject for policy reason. RULE2_1:

Re: Fixing LibreOffice on ‘core-updates’

2018-11-23 Thread Marius Bakke
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Hello Guix, > > As briefly discussed with Marius on IRC, we both tried to fix > LibreOffice on ‘core-updates’. The initial problem is that some of the > libraries it depends on fail to build with the new Boost. > > I started upgrading the whole shebang but

Re: Getting ‘core-updates’ merged

2018-11-23 Thread Julien Lepiller
It.s not a reproducible failure, I built it from today's core-updates on the second try. Le 23 novembre 2018 14:52:42 GMT+01:00, l...@gnu.org a écrit : >l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis: > >> There are still failures out there! >> >> https://hydra.gnu.org/eval/110331?full=1#tabs-still-fai

Octave & QtOctave

2018-11-23 Thread Brett Gilio
Hey all, Happy guix birthday! Quick question, why is the octave package split up into two different public definitions, rather than just having the QtOctave-GUI being a "gui" output, like it is for transmissionBT and some others? Best, Brett Gilio

Re: FOSDEM 2019 stand applications

2018-11-23 Thread Tonton
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:28:20 +0100 l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: [...] > > Speaking of which, if someone has ready-to-use SVG files with stickers > (maybe including the word “Guix” and not just the horns), please share! > Someone can order them and then we can likely get it reimbursed by

Re: Merging ‘wip-newt-installer’ in master?

2018-11-23 Thread Mathieu Othacehe
Hi, > Heheh. Another option would be to pass the locale name to the installer > right from (gnu system install). That way, if people want to build an > image with a different default locale, they can do it. > > Fundamentally though, it’s the installer’s job to offer a choice of > languages ear

Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs, take 3

2018-11-23 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: Hello again! The last problem left for me before we can verify the new bootstrap tarballs and move them to ftp.gnu.org:guix was for ./pre-inst-env guix bootstrap-tarballs to succeed. We needed to force #:system "i686-linux" for mescc-tools-static and mes-minimal.