Hi
On June 10, 2018 4:37:17 PM GMT+02:00, Kei Kebreau wrote:
>Gábor Boskovits writes:
>
>> +1
>>
>> 2018-06-10 15:33 GMT+02:00 Christopher Lemmer Webber
>:
>>
>> Nils Gillmann writes:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I think it would be best if everyone involved would cool down for
>a couple of
>> > d
Catonano skribis:
> I just want to record the sorry state of this community
You and I both know this community, having interacted on-line for a
while and having met in person as well. Like you wrote in the first
part of your blog post, the state of this community is anything but sad.
I find it
Hi Catonano,
Catonano skribis:
> you chose to enfforce only some violations, not all of them
This is a channel of the Guix project, and our code of conduct applies
on this channel (the other issue you referred to was on the Guile
channel and is not related to Guix.)
The insults and derogatory
Gábor Boskovits writes:
> +1
>
> 2018-06-10 15:33 GMT+02:00 Christopher Lemmer Webber :
>
> Nils Gillmann writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think it would be best if everyone involved would cool down for a couple
> of
> > days, restructure their thoughts and reflect on this thread. Look at what
>
+1
2018-06-10 15:33 GMT+02:00 Christopher Lemmer Webber :
> Nils Gillmann writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think it would be best if everyone involved would cool down for a
> couple of
> > days, restructure their thoughts and reflect on this thread. Look at what
> > they are doing, and at how they are
Nils Gillmann writes:
> Hi,
>
> I think it would be best if everyone involved would cool down for a couple of
> days, restructure their thoughts and reflect on this thread. Look at what
> they are doing, and at how they are reacting to other peoples reaction.
> This topic is getting quiet heated,
Catonano writes:
>> Andy’s time is still limited. What other people can do is discuss
>> *specific* cases on guile-devel and work towards a solution. But please
>> do not demand of others to explain everything in detail. (I’m directing
>> this at everyone who heeds my advice to go to guile-d
On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 11:07:21AM +0200, Catonano wrote:
>I'm glad I'm flushing out, people
>You are expressing all your jerkiness in all its glory :-)
It is obvious by now that this person is trolling. Is there any reason
to listen to them?
Pj.
Catonano writes:
> Now, please, tell me: is it worth that I edit the manual to include in
> a reasonable way the notions that you provided my with about macro
> stepping ?
>
> Or would you refuse to merge it ?
My position is that the manual is not an appropriate place to document
wishlist items
Catonano writes:
> By the way, a third person wrote me in private right now telling that
> Mark was an asshole to them too and they stopped contributing to guix
> altogether
>
> They made a conduct report but nothing happened, eventually they had
> to talk to Ludo directly
If you're accusing me
Catonano writes:
> 2018-06-10 11:29 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
>>
>> Catonano writes:
>>
>> > They made a conduct report but nothing happened, eventually they had to
>> > talk to Ludo directly
>>
>> From the Code of Conduct:
>>
>>Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable
2018-06-10 11:29 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
> Catonano writes:
>
> > They made a conduct report but nothing happened, eventually they had to
> > talk to Ludo directly
>
> From the Code of Conduct:
>
>Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable behavior
>may be reported by
Catonano writes:
> They made a conduct report but nothing happened, eventually they had to
> talk to Ludo directly
>From the Code of Conduct:
Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable behavior
may be reported by contacting the project team at
guix-maintain...@gnu.org
2018-06-10 11:26 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
> Catonano,
>
> this language is not at all acceptable anywhere on Guix as you can see
> by referencing the Code of Conduct.
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants inclu
Catonano,
this language is not at all acceptable anywhere on Guix as you can see
by referencing the Code of Conduct.
--8<---cut here---start->8---
Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include:
* The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwe
2018-06-10 8:55 GMT+02:00 Pjotr Prins :
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2018 at 08:51:59PM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> > myg...@gmail.com writes:
> > > Thank you for taking the time to contribute your thoughts. I am sorry
> to
> > > see you getting so beat up by the responses. Unfortunately the
> > > nit-pic
Hi,
I think it would be best if everyone involved would cool down for a couple of
days, restructure their thoughts and reflect on this thread. Look at what
they are doing, and at how they are reacting to other peoples reaction.
This topic is getting quiet heated, and other than the maintainers we
2018-06-10 0:49 GMT+02:00 :
> On 06/07/2018 at 17:25 Catonano writes:
>
> > I just published my latest blog post
> >
> > In this post I discuss Guix
> >
> > And I discuss Guile too
> >
> > I understand that the language is strong and I expect so
2018-06-10 2:51 GMT+02:00 Mark H Weaver :
> myg...@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> Are there any other acceptable responses, in your view?
>
I already proposed a way forward and I even asked you if you would refuse
to merge it
I see you attitute towards that, now.
Also:
yesterday night, before goin
On Sat, Jun 09, 2018 at 08:51:59PM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> myg...@gmail.com writes:
> > Thank you for taking the time to contribute your thoughts. I am sorry to
> > see you getting so beat up by the responses. Unfortunately the
> > nit-picking of criticisms and the "we are busy, why don't yo
myg...@gmail.com writes:
> On 06/07/2018 at 17:25 Catonano writes:
>
>> I just published my latest blog post
>>
>> In this post I discuss Guix
>>
>> And I discuss Guile too
>>
>> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to b
On 06/07/2018 at 17:25 Catonano writes:
> I just published my latest blog post
>
> In this post I discuss Guix
>
> And I discuss Guile too
>
> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
>
> But I feel this is due
Catonano writes:
> Instead of calling me an hopeless moron unwilling to learn, he went and
> updated Skribilo, without saying a single word
>
> I noticed
>
> And I appreciated it
>
> So, yes, it was aggressie indeed
>
> Again. I'll try to be more complete later
I think it's great that Ludovic res
Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Catonano writes:
>
> I wrote this:
>
>But please do not demand of others to explain everything in detail.
>(I’m directing this at everyone who heeds my advice to go to
>guile-devel, not at any one person in particular.)
>
> Rephrasing: I’d like to point this o
2018-06-09 14:24 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
> Catonano writes:
>
> >> Andy’s time is still limited. What other people can do is discuss
> >> *specific* cases on guile-devel and work towards a solution. But please
> >> do not demand of others to explain everything in detail. (I’m directing
>
Ricardo,
you are right that in my last interaction there was some animosity and the
message was below the standard
I apologize
I see that you are maing an effort to deescalate. I appeciate that. Really
I also see that you are suggesting some techical remediation about the
store monad
And that
Catonano writes:
> Assuming that users read academic articles about programming languages in
> order to know your way aroung Guile is not reasonable
I fail to see how this follows from Guile’s lack of a macro stepper. To
be honest, I never even heard of a macro stepper before. And I have
nev
Hi Catonano,
> 2018-06-09 12:39 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
>>
>> Catonano writes:
>>
>> > Assuming that users read academic articles about programming languages in
>> > order to know your way aroung Guile is not reasonable
>>
>> I fail to see how this follows from Guile’s lack of a macro step
2018-06-09 12:39 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
> Catonano writes:
>
> > Assuming that users read academic articles about programming languages in
> > order to know your way aroung Guile is not reasonable
>
> I fail to see how this follows from Guile’s lack of a macro stepper.
Then you were not f
2018-06-08 16:25 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
> Hi Catonano,
>
> > Andy Wingo has a post in which he lists tasks he'd lie to be implemented
> on
> > Guile, many of them have to do with the file format of the compiled
> files.
> >
> > Some love should go to the quality of the experience too, not on
Mark,
thank you again for your remarks
2018-06-08 20:05 GMT+02:00 Mark H Weaver :
> Hi Catonano,
>
> Thank you for your email. I don't have time to make a proper response
> yet, but for now I will respond to just one point:
>
> Catonano writes:
> > On my side, I was a bit adversary because I f
2018-06-08 15:49 GMT+02:00 Ludovic Courtès :
> Hello!
>
> Catonano skribis:
>
> > In this post I discuss Guix
> >
> > And I discuss Guile too
> >
> > I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
> >
> > But I feel this is due
> >
> > Happy reading
> >
> > http://caton
Fis Trivial writes:
> time. Little off topic, what I want to say is that, if I didn't tried to
> evaluate any code from string, how come a modern interpreter can tell me
> the error is happened in "unknown file" "unknown line"? Especially the
> "unknown file".
I cannot answer this without more
Hi Catonano,
Thank you for your email. I don't have time to make a proper response
yet, but for now I will respond to just one point:
Catonano writes:
> On my side, I was a bit adversary because I feel that a macro stepper
> is a fundamental feature of a scheme system and in Guile it's less
> t
Hi Catonano,
> Andy Wingo has a post in which he lists tasks he'd lie to be implemented on
> Guile, many of them have to do with the file format of the compiled files.
>
> Some love should go to the quality of the experience too, not only to the
> tech issues
These are very closely linked. I m
Hello!
Catonano skribis:
> In this post I discuss Guix
>
> And I discuss Guile too
>
> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
>
> But I feel this is due
>
> Happy reading
>
> http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html
Thanks for shari
>
> Fis claimed that the error messages that Guile provides them with don't
> include indications about in which file the error occurred
>
> So he's using Chez scheme instead of Guile, if I remember correctly
>
> I take from this that the Chez scheme error mesages are better.
>
Actually, I tried
2018-06-08 11:39 GMT+02:00 Nils Gillmann :
> Just my brief encouragement:
>
> I'm not sure how active the Guile documentation writer(s) are, but if you
> know how to write it or initially draft something that would be great.
> Writing the code is good, but documenting it affects much more people
Le 2018-06-08 11:34, Clément Lassieur a écrit :
Hi Julien,
Julien Lepiller writes:
I read you're having trouble to find information from the section
titles. Info
manuals
have an index where it's easier to find things. But actually, what
helps me
the most
is to ignore the `info` command and
Catonano transcribed 7.7K bytes:
> Mark,
>
> 2018-06-07 19:03 GMT+02:00 Mark H Weaver :
>
> I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this. I wanted to apologize
> > for making you feel badly; it honestly was not my intent to shame you in
> > any way.
> >
>
> Thank you for your kind and measure
Hi Julien,
Julien Lepiller writes:
> I read you're having trouble to find information from the section titles. Info
> manuals
> have an index where it's easier to find things. But actually, what helps me
> the most
> is to ignore the `info` command and open either the full .texi source or the
>
Le 2018-06-07 17:25, Catonano a écrit :
I just published my latest blog post
In this post I discuss Guix
And I discuss Guile too
I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be
upset
But I feel this is due
Happy reading
http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the
2018-06-08 6:24 GMT+02:00 Christopher Lemmer Webber
:
> I think Catonano and Mark discussed things nicely earlier in the thread,
> so I'm not going to weigh in on that (though I do agree that we would
> can and should do better, but that also it's important to realize that
> community members onl
Christopher Lemmer Webber writes:
> I think Catonano and Mark discussed things nicely earlier in the thread,
> so I'm not going to weigh in on that (though I do agree that we would
> can and should do better, but that also it's important to realize that
> community members only have so many pers
I think Catonano and Mark discussed things nicely earlier in the thread,
so I'm not going to weigh in on that (though I do agree that we would
can and should do better, but that also it's important to realize that
community members only have so many personal resources to be able to
respond sometime
Hello Catonano,
Catonano writes:
> I just published my latest blog post
>
> In this post I discuss Guix
>
> And I discuss Guile too
>
> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
>
> But I feel this is due
>
> Happy reading
>
Mark,
2018-06-07 19:03 GMT+02:00 Mark H Weaver :
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this. I wanted to apologize
> for making you feel badly; it honestly was not my intent to shame you in
> any way.
>
Thank you for your kind and measured words
I appreciate both the tone and the content of
On 07.06.2018 17:25, Catonano wrote:
http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html
You imply that GNU groups are full of "smug jerk"s, say that "Guile is
the realm of smugness and elitarism" and made statements like "The
G-golf project is a tiny dot in the universe. Yo
Hi Catonano,
Catonano writes:
> I just published my latest blog post
>
> In this post I discuss Guix
>
> And I discuss Guile too
>
> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
>
> But I feel this is due
>
> Happy reading
>
Catonano writes:
> I just published my latest blog post
>
> In this post I discuss Guix
>
> And I discuss Guile too
>
> I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
>
> But I feel this is due
>
> Happy reading
>
> http://catonan
I just published my latest blog post
In this post I discuss Guix
And I discuss Guile too
I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
But I feel this is due
Happy reading
http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html
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