Hi Andy,
Andy Tai skribis:
> Regardless of one's opinion of emacs, I just want to add that this is
> itself strange. I have contributed some (package definition) patches
> to guix, all without using emacs.
>
> I am not an emacs user, so emacs is not necessary for contributing to guix.
> For wha
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen aliandika:
[...]
>>
>> Thank you for your opinion but it's just that: a subjective judgement
>> based on your own episodic experience.
>
> I'm sorry if my tone was too harsh, I now realise this is still
> triggering old pain.
>
> Why is it still OK to for people to keep s
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 10:34:11PM +0200, Simon Tournier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 14:09, MSavoritias wrote:
>
> > when its the same people that push Emacs as the "blessed" way to
> > contribute (as in the guix manual)
>
> Just to point 1. Guix is part of GNU – for the good, the
Which packages are those? I' ve only seen scheme-lsp-server, which
isn't merged yet
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 1:44 PM Christine Lemmer-Webber
wrote:
>
> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>
> >
> >
> >> Hi, for some reason emacs has become the elephant in the room of the
> >>
Nathan Dehnel writes:
>
>
>> Hi, for some reason emacs has become the elephant in the room of the
>> discussion on contributing to guix.
>>
>> Regardless of one's opinion of emacs, I just want to add that this is
>> itself strange. I have contributed some (packag
On 25-09-2023 22:35, Simon Tournier wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 14:13, MSavoritias wrote:
So saying that the people who don't know guile or guix need to first
contribute docs is pretty ridiculous.
Why? Could you explain more why it appears to you “ridiculous”?
My frustration seems
Hi Simon
--- Original Message ---
On Monday, September 25th, 2023 at 20:58, Simon Tournier
wrote:
> Hi Ekaitz,
>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 14:25, Ekaitz Zarraga eka...@elenq.tech wrote:
>
> > I decided to go for the action instead of discussion.
>
>
> Nice initiative!
Thank you.
>
Hi Ekaitz,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 14:25, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> I decided to go for the action instead of discussion.
Nice initiative!
> Are maintainers open to add some section like this to the manual?
I am not maintainer and I have nothing against. :-)
Well, I do not know if you plan to i
Hi,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 14:13, MSavoritias wrote:
> So saying that the people who don't know guile or guix need to first
> contribute docs is pretty ridiculous.
Why? Could you explain more why it appears to you “ridiculous”?
Cheers,
simon
Hi,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 20:54, Liliana Marie Prikler
wrote:
>> The default of Emacs absolutely do matter.
[...]
> I share neither the experience nor the argument.
[...]
Please, we are not on the emacs-devel mailing list. :-) Or maybe, we
need to create some guix-tagents mailing list. ;
Hi,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 at 14:09, MSavoritias wrote:
> when its the same people that push Emacs as the "blessed" way to
> contribute (as in the guix manual)
Just to point 1. Guix is part of GNU – for the good, the bad and the
ugly – so 2. editors developed under the GNU umbrella are autopromot
Am Montag, dem 25.09.2023 um 14:19 +0300 schrieb MSavoritias:
>
> On 9/24/23 11:51, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote:
> > [...]
> > It's fine if you prefer another editor, but don't count on us to
> > write documentation for every editor out there [...]
>
> How about we start with two editors then bes
Hi,
I decided to go for the action instead of discussion.
I attach an early WIP patch where I add a small section about
other setups for Guix development. I moved the Vim section from the
bottom because it felt alone and dangling.
I'd also like to add something about commit style, and that kind
On 9/24/23 11:51, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote:
Am Sonntag, dem 24.09.2023 um 02:37 -0500 schrieb Nathan Dehnel:
I'm sorry if my tone was too harsh, I now realise this is still
triggering old pain.
Why is it still OK to for people to keep spreading negative
anecdotes about Emacs, and problemati
On 9/23/23 15:59, indieterminacy wrote:
I would assume that people who dont use Emacs are entitled to document
their experiences using their weapon(s) of choice within the Guix
knowledge corpus.
Sure, consider and discuss governance and workflows... but people
complaining that Emacs users h
On 9/23/23 13:00, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
paul writes:
Dear Paul,
On 9/23/23 09:37, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Nathan Dehnel writes:
I don't use emacs either (because it's so impenetrable)
Emacs might be somewhat different from what you know, but this is utter
bollocks.
Thank you
Csepp writes:
> Ricardo Wurmus writes:
>
>> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>>
>>> heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode,
>>> and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style
>>> screwing around with it.
>>
>> M-x modus-themes-toggle RET
>>
>> i.e. hold
Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>
>> heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode,
>> and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style
>> screwing around with it.
>
> M-x modus-themes-toggle RET
>
> i.e. hold Alt, press x, then type “mo
Am Sonntag, dem 24.09.2023 um 02:37 -0500 schrieb Nathan Dehnel:
> > I'm sorry if my tone was too harsh, I now realise this is still
> > triggering old pain.
>
> > Why is it still OK to for people to keep spreading negative
> > anecdotes about Emacs, and problematic to refute them or counter
> > t
>I'm sorry if my tone was too harsh, I now realise this is still
triggering old pain.
>Why is it still OK to for people to keep spreading negative anecdotes
about Emacs, and problematic to refute them or counter them with
positive anecdotes?
It was a mistake to say that. I felt the reflexive need
Oh, thank you, that's lovely.
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 4:59 AM Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
>
>
> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>
> > heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode,
> > and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style
> > screwing around with it.
>
> M-x
I would assume that people who dont use Emacs are entitled to document
their experiences using their weapon(s) of choice within the Guix
knowledge corpus.
Sure, consider and discuss governance and workflows... but people
complaining that Emacs users have documented their techniques to a
bette
Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>
>> heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode,
>> and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style
>> screwing around with it.
>
> M-x modus-themes-toggle RET
>
> i.e. hold Alt, press x, then type “mo
Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>
>> heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode,
>> and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style
>> screwing around with it.
>
> M-x modus-themes-toggle RET
>
> i.e. hold Alt, press x, then type “mo
paul writes:
Dear Paul,
> On 9/23/23 09:37, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>>
>>> I don't use emacs either (because it's so impenetrable)
>> Emacs might be somewhat different from what you know, but this is utter
>> bollocks.
>
> Thank you for your opinion but it's just tha
Nathan Dehnel writes:
> heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode,
> and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style
> screwing around with it.
M-x modus-themes-toggle RET
i.e. hold Alt, press x, then type “modus-themes-toggle” and hit the
return
Dear Janneke,
On 9/23/23 09:37, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Nathan Dehnel writes:
I don't use emacs either (because it's so impenetrable)
Emacs might be somewhat different from what you know, but this is utter
bollocks.
Thank you for your opinion but it's just that: a subjective judgement
Nathan Dehnel writes:
> I don't use emacs either (because it's so impenetrable)
Emacs might be somewhat different from what you know, but this is utter
bollocks.
Switching to Emacs (from vi) took me three summers. I kept trying
because I had seen how helpful it was, and well the statement that
>Hi, for some reason emacs has become the elephant in the room of the
discussion on contributing to guix.
>Regardless of one's opinion of emacs, I just want to add that this is
itself strange. I have contributed some (package definition) patches
to guix, all with
Hi, for some reason emacs has become the elephant in the room of the
discussion on contributing to guix.
Regardless of one's opinion of emacs, I just want to add that this is
itself strange. I have contributed some (package definition) patches
to guix, all without using emacs.
I am not an emacs
On 9/20/23 17:03, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
MSavoritias writes:
On 9/20/23 11:45, Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the
GNU System distribution. wrote:
On 2023-09-20 at 10:21+02:00, Csepp wrote:
It's better if we have at least one *well documented* developer setup,
than if we ha
MSavoritias writes:
> On 9/20/23 11:45, Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the
> GNU System distribution. wrote:
>> On 2023-09-20 at 10:21+02:00, Csepp wrote:
>>> It's better if we have at least one *well documented* developer setup,
>>> than if we have a bunch of (sometimes confl
On 9/20/23 11:45, Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the
GNU System distribution. wrote:
On 2023-09-20 at 10:21+02:00, Csepp wrote:
It's better if we have at least one *well documented* developer setup,
than if we have a bunch of (sometimes conflicting) partial docs
for setting
On 2023-09-20 at 10:21+02:00, Csepp wrote:
> It's better if we have at least one *well documented* developer setup,
> than if we have a bunch of (sometimes conflicting) partial docs
> for setting up certain subsystems.
>
> Emacs can be pretty good, once you do (setq make-defaults-not-suck 1)
> a bu
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