On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:15:28PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Apologies for not contributing so far, this month is busy for me. I
> think the slow feedback loop with ci.guix is one of the main reasons
> people don’t contribute much. Perhaps the whole process is also unclear
> to people who’r
Hi,
Leo Famulari skribis:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 12:57:50AM -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote:
>> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>>
>> > Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
>> > that does nothing but ungraft things.
>> >
>>
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 12:57:50AM -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
> > Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
> > that does nothing but ungraft things.
> >
> > The rationale is that grafts incur additional overh
Hi Ludovic,
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
> that does nothing but ungraft things.
>
> The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing
> things (the time to create those grafts), so it’s good t
Hello,
Am Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 04:00:36PM -0500 schrieb Leo Famulari:
> I agree, it's not a violation of the functional packaging model in a
> strict sense.
if I understand correctly, it remains confusing in a non-strict sense:
grafting is functional, but it is not the same function. Precisely, t
Hi Mark and Leo,
Thanks for the explanations. All is clear.
All the best,
simon
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 03:03:16PM -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> So, it's still a mathematical function (assuming all packages build
> deterministically), but not necessarily the same function as if normal
> upgrades had been done instead of grafts. That's the main issue with
> grafts that I'm awa
Hi Leo,
Leo Famulari writes:
> When we added the recursive grafting feature, we intended to use it to
> deploy urgent security updates quickly, but we also intended to
> "ungraft" quickly, maybe in a week or two. We never planned to keep
> packages grafted for several months as we do now — graft
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:32:05AM +0100, zimoun wrote:
> But if grafts is here, it is because of something. Therefore, I do not
> understand what it does mean “ungraft”. Avoid the grafting mechanism
> when it is possible?
Grafts are used to "hack" the package dependency graph. We try to make
so
Hi Leo,
On Tue, 08 Dec 2020 at 13:20, Leo Famulari wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:13:40PM +0100, zimoun wrote:
>> I have missed the discussion on IRC and I do not understand the
>> rationale. What's the point of "ungrafting"?
>
> Grafts cause profile operations like `guix install` and `guix
Hi,
Christopher Baines skribis:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
>> Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
>> that does nothing but ungraft things.
>>
>> The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing
>> thi
Hello Ludo,
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hi Guix!
>
> Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
> that does nothing but ungraft things.
>
> The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing
> things (the time to create those gra
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
> that does nothing but ungraft things.
>
> The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing
> things (the time to create those grafts), so it’s good to clean them
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:13:40PM +0100, zimoun wrote:
> I have missed the discussion on IRC and I do not understand the
> rationale. What's the point of "ungrafting"?
Grafts cause profile operations like `guix install` and `guix
environment` to be slower than without grafts.
Hello,
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:13:40PM +0100, zimoun wrote:
> I have missed the discussion on IRC and I do not understand the
> rationale. What's the point of "ungrafting"?
I suppose it is just a branch with all the patches that are grafted applied,
so that it is not necessary to graft them a
Hi Ludo,
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 12:29, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
> that does nothing but ungraft things.
>
> The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing
> things (the time to create th
Hi Guix!
Following discussions on IRC, I’ve created a new ‘ungrafting’ branch
that does nothing but ungraft things.
The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing
things (the time to create those grafts), so it’s good to clean them up
once in a while. Ungrafting in a
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