Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-19 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Pjotr Prins skribis: > This is one example for hosting mailman: https://www.mailmanhost.com/. > They host it on some other VPS service. > > What I want to do is provide something similar with a slick web > interface where people click on a service, say a VPS with mailman, > configure it and launc

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 07:52:58PM +, ng0 wrote: > (I am not a lawyer, and I haven't read every bit and piece of the German > Vereinsrecht > so far) > With a registered non-profit under the Vereinsrecht in Germany it would not > conflict with the non-profit status as long as the work supports

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:13:23PM +0200, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Am 18.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Pjotr Prins: > > there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. > > I also see some demand for ethical hosting, esp. for collaboration > services like mailman, chat, file-share,

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Pjotr Prins writes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +, ng0 wrote: >> > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the >> > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very >> > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I want to compete >>

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 18.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Pjotr Prins: > there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. I also see some demand for ethical hosting, esp. for collaboration services like mailman, chat, file-share, a simple web-site, etc. I get questions about this quite often. But most t

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread ng0
Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.2K bytes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +, ng0 wrote: > > > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the > > > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very > > > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I w

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +, ng0 wrote: > > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the > > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very > > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I want to compete > > with companies that offer

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread ng0
Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.2K bytes: > Continuing this train of thought: there is actually a business case > for something like ethical hosting. For us it is 'easy' to create > services such as mail servers with IMAP and web front-end, mail-main > servers, wikimedia servers etc. But it is not easy f

Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
Continuing this train of thought: there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. For us it is 'easy' to create services such as mail servers with IMAP and web front-end, mail-main servers, wikimedia servers etc. But it is not easy for everyone, And it is certainly not easy to