Re: [bug-womb] [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 06:34:38PM -0500, Karl Berry via RT wrote: On the other hand, having translations simultaneously happening in TP and www seems like a lot of headache to me. I agree, and this is what I was alluding to in my previous emails - and in some cases the work is n

Re: [bug-womb] [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 06:34:38PM -0500, Karl Berry via RT wrote: On the other hand, having translations simultaneously happening in TP and www seems like a lot of headache to me. I agree, and this is what I was alluding to in my previous emails - and in some cases the work is n

Re: [bug-womb] [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

What would you prefer? I prefer plain text, but I don't feel that strongly about it, as such. about not introducing HTML markup in the translated text? If the "translation" you're referring to is the home-pkgblurbs.html file which the web translators work with, that is (obviously) specif

Re: [bug-womb] [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

What would you prefer? I prefer plain text, but I don't feel that strongly about it, as such. about not introducing HTML markup in the translated text? If the "translation" you're referring to is the home-pkgblurbs.html file which the web translators work with, that is (obviously) specif

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/11/2014 10:21 AM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > how about not introducing HTML markup in the translated text? I'm afraid www.gnu.org translators would object; sometimes they want to adjust the markup.

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Karl Berry via RT" skribis: > I thought you guys didn't want these hypothetical TP translators to see > HTML. If you do, fine, we can make the original be HTML, at least as > far as the internal text goes, which is the only concern here afaik. This is really just a suggestion. What would you

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Karl Berry via RT" skribis: > I thought you guys didn't want these hypothetical TP translators to see > HTML. If you do, fine, we can make the original be HTML, at least as > far as the internal text goes, which is the only concern here afaik. This is really just a suggestion. What would you

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

I thought you guys didn't want these hypothetical TP translators to see HTML. If you do, fine, we can make the original be HTML, at least as far as the internal text goes, which is the only concern here afaik. Brandon and I wrote the blurbs in plain text simply because it seemed natural; everythi

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

I thought you guys didn't want these hypothetical TP translators to see HTML. If you do, fine, we can make the original be HTML, at least as far as the internal text goes, which is the only concern here afaik. Brandon and I wrote the blurbs in plain text simply because it seemed natural; everythi

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/10/2014 01:17 PM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > It seems to me that the ideal would be to have (HTML) markup in the > authoritative source (pkgblurbs.txt). Then users could choose whether > to keep/convert/discard that markup. I believe it’s more flexible and > robust than trying to infer

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/10/2014 01:20 PM, John Darrington via RT wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:44:25AM -0500, Ineiev via RT wrote: > > Then, there are also s (which may "translate" into something > different, like or ) and a few other substitutions [1]. > I wonder whether it would be easi

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:44:25AM -0500, Ineiev via RT wrote: Then, there are also s (which may "translate" into something different, like or ) and a few other substitutions [1]. I wonder whether it would be easier if guix used HTML in PO files and converted it to plain

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:44:25AM -0500, Ineiev via RT wrote: Then, there are also s (which may "translate" into something different, like or ) and a few other substitutions [1]. I wonder whether it would be easier if guix used HTML in PO files and converted it to plain

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > On 01/10/2014 03:12 AM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > >> > >> (0) when a new (or corrected) translation is committed to www, www > >> translators send updates to TP, and they merge it to their PO files; > >> > >> (1) when a new translation is submitted to TP, the

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > On 01/10/2014 03:12 AM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > >> > >> (0) when a new (or corrected) translation is committed to www, www > >> translators send updates to TP, and they merge it to their PO files; > >> > >> (1) when a new translation is submitted to TP, the

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/10/2014 03:12 AM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: >> >> (0) when a new (or corrected) translation is committed to www, www >> translators send updates to TP, and they merge it to their PO files; >> >> (1) when a new translation is submitted to TP, the translators send >> a copy to the res

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > I think it can be organized this way: > > (0) when a new (or corrected) translation is committed to www, www > translators send updates to TP, and they merge it to their PO files; > > (1) when a new translation is submitted to TP, the translators send > a copy to the re

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > I think it can be organized this way: > > (0) when a new (or corrected) translation is committed to www, www > translators send updates to TP, and they merge it to their PO files; > > (1) when a new translation is submitted to TP, the translators send > a copy to the re

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/09/2014 01:29 PM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > I mean, we already have a few package translations at > (representing the only > package file currently in POTFILES), but obviously the translators were > not aware of what was being done on

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > On 01/09/2014 02:57 PM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: >> "Ineiev via RT" skribis: >> >>> If there are other (non-web) translators, we may want to arrange a cron job >>> to commit their translations to www. >> >> There would likely be duplicated work if there were bot

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > On 01/09/2014 02:57 PM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: >> "Ineiev via RT" skribis: >> >>> If there are other (non-web) translators, we may want to arrange a cron job >>> to commit their translations to www. >> >> There would likely be duplicated work if there were bot

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Ineiev via RT wrote: No, I'm suggesting that it's possible to delegate the work to groups other than GNU web translators (especially when we have no active team for a language), and www.gnu.org can take advantage of it. I agree - and t

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Ineiev via RT wrote: No, I'm suggesting that it's possible to delegate the work to groups other than GNU web translators (especially when we have no active team for a language), and www.gnu.org can take advantage of it. I agree - and t

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/09/2014 02:57 PM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > "Ineiev via RT" skribis: > >> If there are other (non-web) translators, we may want to arrange a cron job >> to commit their translations to www. > > There would likely be duplicated work if there were both www and non www > people translat

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > If there are other (non-web) translators, we may want to arrange a cron job > to commit their translations to www. There would likely be duplicated work if there were both www and non www people translating these things, which is why I started this discussion. Are you

Re: [gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

"Ineiev via RT" skribis: > If there are other (non-web) translators, we may want to arrange a cron job > to commit their translations to www. There would likely be duplicated work if there were both www and non www people translating these things, which is why I started this discussion. Are you

[gnu.org #881181] Re: [gnu.org #881518] Re: Package synopses and blurbs translation

On 01/08/2014 03:06 AM, Ludovic Courtès via RT wrote: > John Darrington skribis: > >> Well, does it work now? do we have translations of every package >> description in Womb? > > Translations are in the www repo. Actually, only French translations are complete; in Japanese, German and Russian