Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-12 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Felipe López skribis: > On 12/11/14 07:28, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> For the record, with current master the GRUB menu looks like this: >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/screenshots/0.8/grub-menu.png >> >> Ludo’. >> > > I see that the Guix logo is a bit higher than I would expect and a

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-12 Thread Felipe López
On 12/11/14 07:28, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > For the record, with current master the GRUB menu looks like this: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/screenshots/0.8/grub-menu.png > > Ludo’. > I see that the Guix logo is a bit higher than I would expect and a bit close to the frame. The positio

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-12 Thread Ludovic Courtès
For the record, with current master the GRUB menu looks like this: http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/screenshots/0.8/grub-menu.png Ludo’.

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Felipe López skribis: > On 08/11/14 09:22, Ludovic Courtès wrote: [...] >> 1. I didn’t know how to get the screen’s aspect ratio so that grub.cfg >> would load the right image. Any ideas? >> > > I thought that maybe you could access a platform-specific default > resolution from a helpe

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-08 Thread Felipe López
On 08/11/14 09:22, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Felipe López skribis: > >> Done. The SVG is in the repository now. > > Thanks! > > Commit 99ae9ce does preliminary integration. I tested it on VMs as well > as raw hardware, and it works well. :-) > > There are a couple of shortcomings: > > 1. I

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Felipe López skribis: > Done. The SVG is in the repository now. Thanks! Commit 99ae9ce does preliminary integration. I tested it on VMs as well as raw hardware, and it works well. :-) There are a couple of shortcomings: 1. I didn’t know how to get the screen’s aspect ratio so that grub.cf

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Felipe López
On 06/11/14 15:08, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: [...] > Also, this is not a question of deserving the "Grand Name", since that > name is rightfully ours: we are the ones working on it! Don't let > people say otherwise. If even you, GNU hacker, are not sure whether or > not you are working

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: > As a long-time GNU contributor and maintainer, I’m pretty sure > Andreas is fully aware of what you’re saying. If that's the case, why didn't *he* say it to me instead of stating that Guix is the GNU system itself? If still being *fully aware* of what I'v

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: > I think it would be good to see both names, for the reason I gave > earlier. When we have RMS’s green light, we can remove “Guix” > altogether, but for now, it’s better to keep both. Watch out! If even developers are beginning to think it's "the Guix's di

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Felipe López
On 06/11/14 12:13, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Felipe López skribis: > >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-06-grub-dark-gnu-blue.png > > Wonderful, works for me! > > Now that you have access to the repository, perhaps you can create a > ‘grub’ directory (in the guix-art

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Felipe López skribis: > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-06-grub-dark-gnu-blue.png Wonderful, works for me! Now that you have access to the repository, perhaps you can create a ‘grub’ directory (in the guix-artwork.git repo), and add the SVGs for this one? > You have

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Andreas Enge
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 11:09:09AM -0500, Felipe López wrote: > Since the background with the GNU head seems to work, here is modified > version. I made the head a bit more visible and moved the Guix logo to a > corner. > MOD: > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-06-grub-dar

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Andreas Enge
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 06:38:12PM -0500, Felipe López wrote: > As for the frame, GRUB 2 is supposed to be more flexible about the > appearance of the elements in the screen. The frame can be removed and > the boot options can be graphically enhanced. However, I'm using GRUB > legacy appearance bec

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Felipe López
On 06/11/14 04:58, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Felipe López skribis: > >> Since I completely agree with Bruno, here is the GRUB image proposal >> using the GNU logo: >> >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/gnu/2014-11-05-grub-dark.png > > [...] > >> GRAY: >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Felipe López
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/14 04:16, Alex Sassmannshausen wrote: > Hello, > > Some really wonderful mockups! > > Felipe López writes: > >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-05-grub-dark-gnu-blue.png > >> > I like the ones with only the GNU l

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Alex Sassmannshausen skribis: > Felipe López writes: > >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-05-grub-dark-gnu-blue.png > > I like the ones with only the GNU logo, but this one is probably my > favourite! As Andreas said: the watermark is very elegant :-) Actually yes, thi

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Felipe López skribis: > Since I completely agree with Bruno, here is the GRUB image proposal > using the GNU logo: > > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/gnu/2014-11-05-grub-dark.png [...] > GRAY: > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-05-grub-dark-gray.png Ver

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Bruno, As a long-time GNU contributor and maintainer, I’m pretty sure Andreas is fully aware of what you’re saying. That does not mean he cannot have a slightly different opinion on what should appear on the boot screen, after all. Please respect those facts. Also, keep in mind that we need to

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro skribis: > Andreas Enge wrote > >> The GNU is nice. How about having a gnu without the text and then >> the Guix logo? > > May we know what's the rationale backing up your request? Why would > exceptionally the package manager's logo go along with the operating > syst

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-06 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hello, Some really wonderful mockups! Felipe López writes: > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix/2014-11-05-grub-dark-gnu-blue.png I like the ones with only the GNU logo, but this one is probably my favourite! As Andreas said: the watermark is very elegant :-) Alex

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
Andreas Enge wrote: > Actually, you could use the Guix logo as given on its home page: > https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/graphics/ with the text "The GNU > System" underneath. This is what I usually mean when speaking of the > Guix logo. Andreas, I want you to know that I understand your fee

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Felipe López
On 05/11/14 18:06, Andreas Enge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 10:39:17PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote: >> This is not bad at all! The gnu like a watermark is very elegant, I think. >> But the Guix logo and the gnu head are stomping on each other's feet. How >> about putting the Guix logo in the low

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Felipe López
On 05/11/14 18:06, Andreas Enge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 10:39:17PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote: >> This is not bad at all! The gnu like a watermark is very elegant, I think. >> But the Guix logo and the gnu head are stomping on each other's feet. How >> about putting the Guix logo in the low

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Felipe López
On 05/11/14 16:39, Andreas Enge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:28:25PM -0500, Felipe López wrote: >> Since I completely agree with Bruno, here is the GRUB image proposal >> using the GNU logo: >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/gnu/2014-11-05-grub-dark.png > > The GNU is nice. H

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Andreas Enge
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 10:39:17PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote: > This is not bad at all! The gnu like a watermark is very elegant, I think. > But the Guix logo and the gnu head are stomping on each other's feet. How > about putting the Guix logo in the lower right corner of the frame with the > boot

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
Andreas Enge wrote > The GNU is nice. How about having a gnu without the text and then > the Guix logo? May we know what's the rationale backing up your request? Why would exceptionally the package manager's logo go along with the operating system's logo in the *boot manager* screen? Furthermor

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
Felipe López wrote:> On 05/11/14 15:16, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Since I completely agree with Bruno, here is the GRUB image proposal > using the GNU logo: > > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/gnu/2014-11-05-grub-dark.png That's beautiful! -*.*- Congratulations! To me it's perfec

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Andreas Enge
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:28:25PM -0500, Felipe López wrote: > Since I completely agree with Bruno, here is the GRUB image proposal > using the GNU logo: > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/gnu/2014-11-05-grub-dark.png The GNU is nice. How about having a gnu without the text and then

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Felipe López
On 05/11/14 15:16, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro skribis: > >> From a strategical perspective, I fail to see why the distinction >> between GNU/Linux-libre and GNU/Hurd could be of any relevance. IMHO, >> calling both simply "GNU" would help in the promotion of the GNU >>

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro skribis: > From a strategical perspective, I fail to see why the distinction > between GNU/Linux-libre and GNU/Hurd could be of any relevance. IMHO, > calling both simply "GNU" would help in the promotion of the GNU > project and its ideals. That would not cause conf

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro writes: > [everything] I really agree after all; when I think of it, the number of people I've met who know and possibly even like "Linux" but have either literally never heard of GNU, or think of it as some obscure side-project, is quite depressing. And talking abou

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
taylanbayi...@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer) wrote: > Let me shamelessly indulge in this bikeshedding discussion. "Bikeshedding" like those discussions of whether the operating system should be called "Linux" or "GNU/Linux"? > Even if the kernel component or any other number of compone

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
Andreas Enge wrote: > Part of the fun in Guix is that it conflates and blurs boundaries, > the package descriptions, the dmd init system and the package manager > are all written in Guile and can be loaded into the same REPL. Extending your argument, every other software written for the Guile int

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
Let me shamelessly indulge in this bikeshedding discussion: Omar Radwan writes: > But it's not the real GNU kernel, so it would still have to be called > GNU/Linux-libre, or GNU/Linux. Depends on whether we're talking about a "brand name" or "project name" of sorts, or a "technical name." Ev

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Thompson, David
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: > > GNU dmd is *not* part of Guix. Likewise all the GNU programs packaged > to work with Guix are *not* part of Guix. While GNU dmd is not part of the Guix source tree, Guix comes with many dmd services.

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Felipe López
On 05/11/14 08:26, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Thanks Felipe for the proposal, I like it! > > Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro skribis: > >> I think that if we want to make the GNU Guix distribution the one and >> true GNU operating system, as a sort of marketing strategy, we need to >> make every ref

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Omar Radwan
>I wonder if RMS has a good argument to justify his insistence in the >truthfulness of the equation 'GNU = GNU/Hurd' beyond the well-known >historical and technical ones. I see where you get that idea from. Linux-libre is just a deblobbed fork of the Linux kernel and the project which manages Linu

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Felipe López
On 05/11/14 09:09, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: > >> Agreed. But note that RMS asked me to not insist on calling the OS >> “the GNU system”, at least for now (AIUI, his main concern is that >> GNU = GNU/Hurd, which is not currently supported.) >

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Andreas Enge
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 12:31:48PM -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: > GNU Guix is a package manager, GNU is an operating system. Please, > don't conflate the two. Part of the fun in Guix is that it conflates and blurs boundaries, the package descriptions, the dmd init system and the pack

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
Andreas Enge wrote: > Actually, Guix is really much more than the package manager, it > includes the packages and the init system; so it makes sense to call > Guix itself the GNU system. For the GNU system we always have had a name and that's "GNU". The init system, the package manager and the

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: > Agreed. But note that RMS asked me to not insist on calling the OS > “the GNU system”, at least for now (AIUI, his main concern is that > GNU = GNU/Hurd, which is not currently supported.) I wonder if RMS has a good argument to justify his insistence in

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Andreas Enge
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:22:54PM -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: > I think that if we want to make the GNU Guix distribution the one and > true GNU operating system, as a sort of marketing strategy, we need to > make every reference to the sense of operating system or software > distrib

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-05 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Thanks Felipe for the proposal, I like it! Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro skribis: > I think that if we want to make the GNU Guix distribution the one and > true GNU operating system, as a sort of marketing strategy, we need to > make every reference to the sense of operating system or software > d

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
This is my first post to this list, so: greetings, developers who are putting together the pieces of the one complete and true GNU operating system! I appreciate your work very much, and as a GNU maintainer, I hope to start contributing soon to this GNU Guix effort. Felipe López, I've taken a loo

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Felipe López
On 04/11/14 18:17, Andreas Enge wrote: > One more comment: It would be good to have a high contrast in the grub screen, > but I do not know if this is related to the background image or needs to be > done in grub. For instance, white text on dark background would work better > than the current ligh

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Felipe López
On 04/11/14 17:22, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: > This is my first post to this list, so: greetings, developers who are > putting together the pieces of the one complete and true GNU operating > system! I appreciate your work very much, and as a GNU maintainer, I > hope to start contributing

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Andreas Enge
One more comment: It would be good to have a high contrast in the grub screen, but I do not know if this is related to the background image or needs to be done in grub. For instance, white text on dark background would work better than the current light gray text on dark background. Ideal from my p

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Felipe López
On 04/11/14 17:25, Andreas Enge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 04:15:47PM -0600, Eric Bavier wrote: >> I think the the red in the lower corners is a bit distracting though. >> Could it perhaps be a more subtle color? > > Or could it be more Guix specific? For instance, one of the coloured peta

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Felipe López
On 04/11/14 17:15, Eric Bavier wrote: > > Felipe López writes: > >> Hi, >> >> This is a proposal for a GRUB background image: >> >> http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix-grub.png >> >> What do you think? > > I really like it! Thanks for the quick work. > > I think the the red in t

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Andreas Enge
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 04:15:47PM -0600, Eric Bavier wrote: > I think the the red in the lower corners is a bit distracting though. > Could it perhaps be a more subtle color? Or could it be more Guix specific? For instance, one of the coloured petals of the guix logo in each corner, and the text

Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Eric Bavier
Felipe López writes: > Hi, > > This is a proposal for a GRUB background image: > > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix-grub.png > > What do you think? I really like it! Thanks for the quick work. I think the the red in the lower corners is a bit distracting though. Could it perh

[ART] Background image for GRUB

2014-11-04 Thread Felipe López
Hi, This is a proposal for a GRUB background image: http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guix-grub.png What do you think? -- Luis Felipe López Acevedo http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/