Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-23 Thread Yeti
[off topic only as much as the rest of this thread] On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:57:11AM -0500, Freddie Unpenstein wrote: > > Do the packagers read this list? > > Do the maintainers read this list? > > I don't know. Do they? Do you know for a fact that none of them do? Do you > know that none of

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-22 Thread Freddie Unpenstein
> > He shouldn't, but as a user of libglade who DID go and out figure > > out how to use it (I do still have some "best libglade practices" > > issues to figure out, though), I don't see why I can't back him up > > in so far as what I see as a good point. > Do the packagers read this list? > Do th

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-21 Thread Yeti
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 02:58:29AM -0500, Freddie Unpenstein wrote: > > Surely we can agree that theres no point in asking the maintainers > > of the tarball to please give better documentation and examples, if > > you've never even looked at the tarball right ? > > He shouldn't, but as a user of

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-20 Thread Freddie Unpenstein
> > Especially since glade is pushing the use of libglade as THE > > way to incorporate glade-produced layouts into applications, > > libglade should be packaged so as to encourage just that. Not > > make it hard for application developers to figure out how to use > > it. In any case, this is more

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-19 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 03:38 -0500, Freddie Unpenstein wrote: > > what you MUST do, is download the tarball and see if the maintainer > > included any helpfull files to help you understand how to use > > the library, one of those helpfull files is test-libglade.c, a full > > fledged example of all t

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-19 Thread Michael Ekstrand
Time to dip my oar in the water... On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:18 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > On Saturday 17 February 2007 12:16 pm, you wrote: > > Gerald I. Evenden wrote on 02/17/2007 05:49 PM: > > > On line 72 in module main there is a reference to function > > > g_signal_connect. I cannot f

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-19 Thread Freddie Unpenstein
> what you MUST do, is download the tarball and see if the maintainer > included any helpfull files to help you understand how to use > the library, one of those helpfull files is test-libglade.c, a full > fledged example of all the uses of libglade. I haven't been following this thread all too c

Re: libglade frustration redux - back away from the keyboard

2007-02-17 Thread James Scott Jr
Geraldi, I take notice of the following comment. "I give up! I throw in the towel". This is certainly your option, but I will tell you that your experience with libglade is typical for persons who approach programming the wrong way. Let me suggest an alternative that WILL yield different and

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-17 Thread Michael Torrie
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:18 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > LOL > > I give up! I throw in the towel. Sorry to hear that. I believe that you could have found GTK programming very rewarding. Note that I did not say "libglade" because I think you had difficulties because you focused on libglade

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-17 Thread Gerald I. Evenden
On Saturday 17 February 2007 12:38 pm, Michael Torrie wrote: ... My comments about information access is addressed on another email. > The example works just as it is supposed to. I get a pulsing progress > bar which, on my GTK theme, is a small blue rectangle that moves back > and forth

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-17 Thread Gerald I. Evenden
On Saturday 17 February 2007 12:16 pm, you wrote: > Gerald I. Evenden wrote on 02/17/2007 05:49 PM: > > On line 72 in module main there is a reference to function > > g_signal_connect. I cannot find any reference to this entry in the index > > Have you tried typing "g_signal_connect site:developer.

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-17 Thread Michael Torrie
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 11:49 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > >From a gnome.org web page there are four example programs from which I will > select example2 as an sample of incomplete/non-existant documentation. See Having addressed your points below, I have to disagree that the documentation is

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-17 Thread Olivier Ramare
Dear all, I've learned how to use gtk by reading this documentation, and other ressources found on the fly on the web; I've found is extremely useful and well done, especially for a growing project. I am no C-guru, not even a computer scientist, and my training is programming is twenty years o

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-17 Thread Gerald I. Evenden
On Friday 16 February 2007 11:17 pm, Michael Torrie wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 22:13 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > I believe that much of the above and following issues are reasonably well > > resolved but there are serious problems with the adequacy of some > > sections (glib) but I will

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 22:13 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > I believe that much of the above and following issues are reasonably well > resolved but there are serious problems with the adequacy of some sections > (glib) but I will address these to a specific issue on a subsequent email I'm

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-16 Thread Gerald I. Evenden
This is a side thread but I think some important issues are in question On Thursday 15 February 2007 2:48 pm, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > 2. A side thread suggested that in order to understand the usage of a > > system like libglade one should study the source. > > I t

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-16 Thread Claudio Saavedra
Quoting "Gerald I. Evenden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 3. Getting back to libglade. I have searched through many pages of google to > find either a decent reference and/or tutorial for libglade. A couple of > tutorials make halfway attempts but ultimately fail because they have no > reference manu

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-15 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > 2. A side thread suggested that in order to understand the usage of a system > like libglade one should study the source. I think that's pretty standard practice where any open source library/development system is concerned. Having full reference documentation, tutori

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-15 Thread Michael L Torrie
I have made a major mistake here. Apparently google is indexing the old libglade-1.0 stuff rather than the new stuff. The 2.0 docs are here: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/libglade/index.html Note that for any gnome-related library, you can find the api and reference docs at: http://de

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-15 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 13:46 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > A the originator of this thread I will rephrase my problems and make a larger > scale complaint. > > 1. My original complaint was compile/linking glade output. Thanks to M. > Torrie this problem was nicely solved and I can compile/li

Re: libglade frustration redux

2007-02-15 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 13:46 -0500, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: [...] > I would love to be proved wrong about libglade documentation so please flame > me if I am and point out my sins. Even though I am now able to compile/link > libglade code I find that I am now stymied by lack of documentation on

libglade frustration redux

2007-02-15 Thread Gerald I. Evenden
A the originator of this thread I will rephrase my problems and make a larger scale complaint. 1. My original complaint was compile/linking glade output. Thanks to M. Torrie this problem was nicely solved and I can compile/link several examples from various sources. 2. A side thread suggested