Re: please stop this

2009-07-18 Thread Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
>> > In any case, this kind of changes need wider consensus, and including the >> > maintainers in it. >> The problem is that most comments are in the form "maybe I agree maybe >> I don't". Such kind of discussions may never result in consensus. >> Useful patches lying in bitrot somewhere on the li

Re: please stop this

2009-07-18 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 06:10:48PM +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > > > > Usually, I only go through the trouble of implementing things when it's > > clear they will be merged in some form.  But I understand it's not > > the same for everyone.  So if I missunderstood, please accept my

Re: please stop this

2009-07-16 Thread Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Robert Millan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 02:17:39AM +0800, Bean wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Pavel Roskin wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 19:57 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: >> > >> >> I agree that we have a problem due to lack of leadership, but

Re: please stop this

2009-07-16 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 02:17:39AM +0800, Bean wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Pavel Roskin wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 19:57 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > >> I agree that we have a problem due to lack of leadership, but this is not > >> acceptable.  Marco is busy right now (trav

Re: please stop this

2009-07-14 Thread Bean
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 19:57 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > >> I agree that we have a problem due to lack of leadership, but this is not >> acceptable.  Marco is busy right now (traveling), so please put this on hold >> untill he's back, then we

Re: please stop this

2009-07-14 Thread Pavel Roskin
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 19:57 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > I agree that we have a problem due to lack of leadership, but this is not > acceptable. Marco is busy right now (traveling), so please put this on hold > untill he's back, then we can discuss it. I agree that we should not rush with such

please stop this

2009-07-14 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:49:37PM +0800, Bean wrote: > Hi, > > This patch implement a new object format, the advantages are: Hi Bean, Last time this was discussed [1], there was no consensus that we should switch to a new object format. Furthermore, Marco had some objections: http://lists.g