On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:37:43PM +0200, phcoder wrote:
> Robert Millan wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:31:10PM +0200, phcoder wrote:
> >>> I assume you talk about GRUB loading itself; what kind of information
> >>> would
> >>> you pass from one GRUB to the other?
> >> Boot device,
> >
>
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:40:32PM +0200, phcoder wrote:
> Robert Millan wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:49:14PM +0300, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
> >> Possibilites are there, but basically they are limited to something like:
> >>
> >> (ata0) (pci-X-Y-Z:ata0) (usb-X-Y:scsi0) (pci-X-Y-Z:scsi0)
>
Robert Millan wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:49:14PM +0300, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
>> Possibilites are there, but basically they are limited to something like:
>>
>> (ata0) (pci-X-Y-Z:ata0) (usb-X-Y:scsi0) (pci-X-Y-Z:scsi0)
>
> I think this is overkill, and doesn't really address the root o
Robert Millan wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:31:10PM +0200, phcoder wrote:
>>> I assume you talk about GRUB loading itself; what kind of information would
>>> you pass from one GRUB to the other?
>> Boot device,
>
> Multiboot already handles that (although it's not reliable; I don't
> think
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:49:14PM +0300, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
>
> Possibilites are there, but basically they are limited to something like:
>
> (ata0) (pci-X-Y-Z:ata0) (usb-X-Y:scsi0) (pci-X-Y-Z:scsi0)
I think this is overkill, and doesn't really address the root of the problem.
The real s
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:31:10PM +0200, phcoder wrote:
> >
> > I assume you talk about GRUB loading itself; what kind of information would
> > you pass from one GRUB to the other?
> Boot device,
Multiboot already handles that (although it's not reliable; I don't
think this feature should be us
Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
> phcoder wrote:
>> Yes it is, but in my opinion price is too high (shame ubuntu uses this
>> solution). It's somewhat similar to some solutions found in windows when
>> for user convenience they open a big gate for the hackers (e.g. all
>> users by default are administra
phcoder wrote:
> Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
>> That is a valid point.
>>
>> Would you prefer to use hardware path to device or what you had in mind
>> then? Because this is something that we can left for expert people. Most
>> common problem is that user plugs in new drive to system and
>> bios/hardw
Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
> That is a valid point.
>
> Would you prefer to use hardware path to device or what you had in mind
> then? Because this is something that we can left for expert people. Most
> common problem is that user plugs in new drive to system and
> bios/hardware order gets changed
phcoder wrote:
> But consider a scenario when attacker can't overwrite the existing
> harddrive but can plug new one. Then the attacker can prepare a
> harddrive having a partition with the same UUID as our boot partition.
> Then he plugs it and depnding on factors like order of interfaces,
> devic
Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote:
> phcoder wrote:
>> I was thinking about the scenario when ide drives are trusted but not
>> USB or removable devices. Cryptographic checksums wouldn't bring much
>> because if attacker can modify harddrive he can also modify GRUB to skip
>> checksum check.
>
> Then you p
phcoder wrote:
> I was thinking about the scenario when ide drives are trusted but not
> USB or removable devices. Cryptographic checksums wouldn't bring much
> because if attacker can modify harddrive he can also modify GRUB to skip
> checksum check.
Then you password protect it :) Once that is
Robert Millan wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 11:50:33AM +0200, phcoder wrote:
>> Hello, all.
>> Now when core image can be booted by multiple sources perhaps it would
>> be a good idea to recieve some boot arguments in case boot method (e.g.
>> multiboot) supports it. Probably the best way is to
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 11:50:33AM +0200, phcoder wrote:
> Hello, all.
> Now when core image can be booted by multiple sources perhaps it would
> be a good idea to recieve some boot arguments in case boot method (e.g.
> multiboot) supports it. Probably the best way is to recieve pairs
> which can
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