Pierre-Jean:
> My user opinion is that letting a postprocessor
> change the structure of a document is confusing. I
> don't like pdfroff for this reason. In my humble
> opinion, writing the table of content in the
> begining of a document is a job for a troff macro.
But this would requ
Hi Anton,
> But this would require the somewhat non-standard way of using troff in
> two passes.
Is it non-standard? I thought the normal way was to set up two passes,
or more strictly a loop until everything settles down into place, as
this is how TeX does it too IIRC. Not that TeX's way of do
>> My user opinion is that letting a postprocessor change the
>> structure of a document is confusing. I don't like pdfroff for
>> this reason. In my humble opinion, writing the table of content in
>> the begining of a document is a job for a troff macro.
>
> But this would require the somewhat
Fair warning. This started as a short "I agree" note, but ...
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 04:12:40PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> >> My user opinion is that letting a postprocessor change the
> >> structure of a document is confusing. I don't like pdfroff for
> >> this reason. In my humble opini
> As a *roff user since the mid-1970s I am all too aware that to be
> good at this you have to know and _understand_ a lot of details
> about the document models (as represented by the different macro
> collections: man, mm, mom, ms ...) and the fundamental commands,
> registers, etc. To do even
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 05:37:41PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> :
> > The other day I was thinking of creating, as a first step, a set of
> > overlay macros for things like groff_mm (my macro package of choice)
> > to ease the burden of learning and understanding it:
> >
> > .mm_Abs
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011, Mike Bianchi wrote:
> I worry that *roff is an old technology loved only by old people.
> It won't survive much longer if it isn't loved by people much
> younger than me.
...
> That way one would not have to memorize quite as much trivial
> detail to understand the document s
Greetings All!
I'm writing to flag up a little trap that one might
fall into when using 'tbl'.
Background: I'm setting up a table and I want each
row to have a row number to the left of the table.
So I have defined a "left margin number" string \*[lmn]
to do that for each row. My first setup was
Mike Bianchi wrote:
> What is missing is a Front Door that leads you gently into the Castle, teaches
> you the way through the rooms, closets and pantries, so you can live
> comfortably there with what is present. Then (and only then) should you be
> led
> down into the basement and shown how t
Ralph Corderoy:
> Is it non-standard? I thought the normal way was
> to set up two passes, or more strictly a loop
> until everything settles down into place, as this
> is how TeX does it too IIRC. Not that TeX's way
> of doing anything necessarily makes it right. ;-)
I meant, non-s
Mike Bianchi:
> [...] To do even the simplest document requires
> much-too-much expertise for the rank beginner.
>
> What is missing is a Front Door that leads you
> gently into the Castle, teaches you the way
> through the rooms, closets and pantries, so you
> can live comforta
On Friday 29 Jul 2011 22:25:59 Ted Harding wrote:
> Greetings All!
> I'm writing to flag up a little trap that one might
> fall into when using 'tbl'.
>
> Background: I'm setting up a table and I want each
> row to have a row number to the left of the table.
>
> So I have defined a "left margin n
On 07/29/2011 06:10 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
Mike Bianchi:
[...] To do even the simplest document requires
much-too-much expertise for the rank beginner.
What is missing is a Front Door that leads you
gently into the Castle, teaches you the way
through the rooms, closets and pa
Am Samstag 30 Juli 2011 schrieb Deri James:
> I think this could be because tbl needs to know the max width of each column
> before starting to output, so when considering the first column it will have
> to
> examine the width of \*[lmn] foreach row that you use it on. So these six
> accesses
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