Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-23 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: > Well, if you're using vim ... I do. > First enter the following (in command mode) to define abbreviations: > > :ab [cut a lot of good advice] You mean something like iabbrev byiwi fileref="" \format="linespecific">pa

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 03:05:34AM +0200, Bernd Warken wrote: > > Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > > > > There's a good info viewer that is more like lynx than info. > > It's called pinfo, and I use it all the time for reading info pages. > > Another possibility is dwww. I have it on a Linux Debian sy

Re: [Groff] Re: Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think the manual should be maintained seperately and simply as a > basic reference, refering to the info file for more complicated or > detailed information. Yes. groff(7) aims to be complete and should be exactly that. > The first thing to do would be to setup an organized structure of > wh

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> And if you're not comfortable in emacs, you won't like info. [...] Apparently, you haven't tried info for a longer time. The used keys are now quite more familiar to other programs. Werner ___ Groff mailing list Groff@gnu.org http://lists.gn

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> >> And it's not difficult to see hints of that in texinfo! > > > > What exactly do you mean? > > Basically the repertoire of keystrokes, which seem to resemble > EMACS ones; OK if you remember them, which I don't (apart from > SPACE and BS). However, to be fair, it does seem that 'info' has > b

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Oct-05 Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: >> Well, if you're using vim ... > > I do. > >> First enter the following (in command mode) to define abbreviations: >> >> :ab > [cut a lot of good advice] > > You mean something like > > iabbre

Re: [Groff] Displaying PDF slides (was: Colors, PowerPoint and PDFs)

2005-10-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 21 October 2005 at 10:57:26 -0500, Michael Parson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 10:15:57AM +0300, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > >> The real reason for this reply is: how do you *display* PDF slide >> sets? I currently use acroread, which renders well, but it's pretty >> slow (it

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
What a lot of traffic there has been on this list lately! I've read all the messages in this thread that I have received, and this seems to be the best one to hang my reply on; but I've taken other thoughts into account. On Saturday, 22 October 2005 at 14:36:36 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >>> Th

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Long-short syndrome. On Saturday, 22 October 2005 at 14:56:35 -0600, Clarke Echols wrote: > Larry Kollar wrote: >> > >> I use structured FrameMaker at work to write documentation, and one >> of the easier ways I've found to get

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 22 October 2005 at 16:44:12 -0500, Alejandro Lpez-Valencia wrote: > On 10/22/05, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 03:47:19PM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote: >>> I use structured FrameMaker at work to write documentation, and one of >>> the easier ways I've found to get tex

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > If a texinfo document appears as a labyrinth, it is badly written, > > or rather, it has a bad structure. > > This is a reasonable, even definitive, statement. But I have the > feeling that texinfo encourages such bad structure. How do you get this impression? Of course, texinfo offers @sec

[Groff] html image files

2005-10-23 Thread Amber Hassaan
Hi, When we generate an html document using groff , there are several automatically generated .png images which are to be loaded in the html page. Typically the web documents have a separate folder for keeping such images(and other stuff) .Please , tell me , how do we do this in groff when w

[Groff] Foxit PDF Reader

2005-10-23 Thread Clarke Echols
I downloaded the Foxit PDF Reader and tried it out on some slides I'm creating. The edges on circle lines look rough. Acrobat is much cleaner. I hear about the "Acroread" reader. Is that different from the Acrobat Reader? I see no reference to it on Adobe web pages. Clarke __

Re: [Groff] html image files

2005-10-23 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2005 17:59 schrieb Amber Hassaan: > Hi, > When we generate an html document using groff , > there are several automatically generated .png images > which are to be loaded in the html page. >Typically the web documents have a separate folder > for keeping such images(

Re: [Groff] Foxit PDF Reader

2005-10-23 Thread Alejandro López-Valencia
On 10/23/05, Clarke Echols wrote: > I downloaded the Foxit PDF Reader and tried it out on some > slides I'm creating. The edges on circle lines look rough. > Acrobat is much cleaner. > > I hear about the "Acroread" reader. Is that different from > the Acrobat Reader? I see no reference to it on

RE: [Groff] Foxit PDF Reader

2005-10-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Oct-05 Clarke Echols wrote: > I downloaded the Foxit PDF Reader and tried it out on some > slides I'm creating. The edges on circle lines look rough. > Acrobat is much cleaner. > > I hear about the "Acroread" reader. Is that different from > the Acrobat Reader? I see no reference to it on

Re: [Groff] Displaying PDF slides (was: Colors, PowerPoint and PDFs)

2005-10-23 Thread Michael Parson
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 03:57:28PM +0300, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 21 October 2005 at 10:57:26 -0500, Michael Parson wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 10:15:57AM +0300, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> >> >> >>> The real reason for this reply is: how do you *display* PDF slide >>> sets

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-23 Thread Larry Kollar
Werner LEMBERG wrote: Oh, this transition is, I think, a few years old :-) As mentioned in a just written mail, info is today quite user friendly even for the non-emacs people. Yes, it has been a while since I tried info, but didn't think it has been several years... my iBook (running OSX 10.

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-23 Thread Larry Kollar
You use a totally different tool (Vim) to help another tool that's supposedly made to help you with XML (FrameMaker). Yes, but in this case I'm using vim (or rather, piping blocks of text into shell scripts from vim) to throw down the essential markup: I can do something like "8!!mks" to: wrap