Re: [Groff] character garble

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> He just needs to set > MANPAGER="more -R" > and export it. Thanks, added to the docs. Werner ___ Groff mailing list Groff@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/groff

Re: [Groff] Would I dare to post here?

2005-10-17 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 17/10/2005, at 9:38 AM, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: Trust me. You've made your point. I've learned something in the process. Me too. And that's all that matters. Friends? Miklos ___ Groff mailing list Groff@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman

[Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread mikkel meinike
Ciao! I'd bean on this list less than 30 ours. I don't even new the typesetting languish you are discussing here and already I am posting an off-topic question. But I am trying to get an overview of my possibility's and I think that maybe some of you gays might be clever on this subject. (I found

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Re: Printer memory [Was: RE: [Groff] slack4, groff and ps]

2005-10-17 Thread Miklos Somogyi
In the distant past I used troff with lots of math and printed on a PS laser with 8 MB memory and a 16 MHz processor, without the slightest problem. Nowadays there are lots of complaints regarding slw printing, for which HP's panacea is huge memory and a faster processor. Partly fair enough,

Re: [Groff] Would I dare to post here?

2005-10-17 Thread Gaius Mulley
Hi, I guess I've been subscribed to the groff mailing list for 6 years (ish) now, and I find it a really helpful and very friendly place. Many times people take to time to compose large emails explaining how macro packages work or how to get the most out of pic/tbl or how to perform a diversion s

Re: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Miklos Somogyi
Mikkel, I don't know about 1.11 but higher versions definitely support PostScript. I would be surprised if 1.11 wouldn't. The inclusion of PS into a groff file seems to be very simple, but you need to know at least a day's learning of PS and groff to take advantage of this. I do "watermarks

RE: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Ted Harding
On 17-Oct-05 mikkel meinike wrote: > Ciao! > > I'd bean on this list less than 30 ours. I don't even new the > typesetting languish you are discussing here and already I am posting > an off-topic question. But I am trying to get an overview of my > possibility's and I think that maybe some of you

[Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread D. E. Evans
Considering all the discussion my simple (but unfortunately not explained) query has caused, I think a note of introduction is in order. My name is David, usually called Sinuhe in GNU Project circles. I have been your (the GNU Project's) chief webmaster since 2003, but have turned the reigns over

Re: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> (I found out my version of groff is 1.11.) Uh, oh, this is old. Please upgrade to 1.19.2, the latest version available. > After what I have fount about groff (google :-)) it does not support > grafic (images). Well, it's support is similar to, say, LaTeX. Ted has answered this in great lengt

Re: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Ted Harding
On 17-Oct-05 Miklos Somogyi wrote: > [...] > If you are serious about learning PS, try to get a copy of > the first edition of Adobe's PostScript Reference Manual. > Unlike later editions it is not intimidating and you can > study it to good effect at a long weekend. > It is out of print but there

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
David, welcome to the world of groff. > I have just been made a developer of the groff project to assist > with your documentation, and with the texinfo manual, (and perhaps > your website?). Please do so! For testing and educational purposes, the web site is directly created by groff from `w

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread D. E. Evans
welcome to the world of groff. Thank you. > I have just been made a developer of the groff project to assist > with your documentation, and with the texinfo manual, (and perhaps > your website?). Please do so! For testing and educational purposes, the web site is directly crea

Re: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Alejandro López-Valencia
On 10/17/05, mikkel meinike wrote: [snip] Three of best resources in the net on everything related postscript are: "Internet Resources for POSTSCRIPT and GHOSTSCRIPT" "Guru's Lair: PostScript library directory"

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>Please do so! For testing and educational purposes, the web site >is directly created by groff from `webpage.ms' (and `groff.css'). > > I wonder if this is on the ffii site, not gnu.org. Is the gnu.org > page (at /software/groff) a mirror of the ffii site? For simplicity, they are the

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread D. E. Evans
. Copy the new stuff from NEWS to webpage.ms and adjust it to be valid groff code. . Say `make' to generate `webpage.html'. . Copy `webpage.html' to gnu.org, manually adjust the links to the two images, then replace the old with the new version by renaming it

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread D. E. Evans
> However, I think a better idea would be to do it through the > configure script. Did I overlook an option already present? What shall the *groff* configure script do? Shouldn't this be rather something in the *man* configure script? The removal of the escape charact

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Meg McRoberts
Welcome, David! > I have just been made a > developer of the groff project to assist with your documentation, > and with the texinfo manual, (and perhaps your website?). This is great! Excuse my ignorance, but how exactly is one made a developer of a specific project? I'm just curious how these

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:50:55PM -0600, D. E. Evans wrote: >The removal of the escape characters, etc., for a compatible output >with OpenBSD's default, (this would be a configure option). For >now, I guess a simple note (to the INSTALL file) that man -R needs >to be set globally

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread D. E. Evans
This is great! Excuse my ignorance, but how exactly is one made a developer of a specific project? I'm just curious how these things work and what this means -- apropos of nothing Talk with Werner, and submit your request via Savannah. Myself, I've been writing documents in groff f

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Meg McRoberts
> Talk with Werner, and submit your request via Savannah. This makes sense. So how many official developers does groff have? >It would be nice to provide some sample scripts, or perhaps > > I think this is an excellent idea. I realized after I posted this that it sounded like I was saying

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Hmmm...why not take the text from NEWS and insert it into the html > file? Verbatim? This is quite ugly IMHO. > I'm not completely happy with the markup that groff puts out for > this purpose. Details, please. Maybe it can improved easily. >What shall the *groff* configure script do? S

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > I have just been made a developer of the groff project to assist > > with your documentation, and with the texinfo manual, (and perhaps > > your website?). > > This is great! Excuse my ignorance, but how exactly is one made a > developer of a specific project? `To made someone a developer' b

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Perhaps Zvezdan could clarify how this was done under > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff (of the OpenBSD source) with 1.15? (Or > was this a change made with a newer edition of groff?) SGR support was introduced in 1.18. Werner ___ Groff mailing li

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> There are several options, though, without changing groff > configuration. [Excellent explanation omitted.] Something like that should go into the PROBLEMS file IMHO -- or do you suggest a better place, perhaps a new file? Any volunteers? Werner ___