Re: [Groff] ubuntu, groff and utf-8

2005-03-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Below is a small perl script which does that. Note that it > > doesn't `fake' glyphs, this is, it doesn't construct, say, > > `Amacron' from an `A' and a `macron' glyph. Any volunteer for > > this? > > It seems the following function is what you are looking for: > > $NFC_string = NFC($strin

Re: [Groff] The quest for a high-end typesetting system: A fewquestions

2005-03-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> 1: Language, how is that handled? Different languages need different > hyphenation files. A general remark: groff uses a simplified version of TeX's hyphenation algorithm; it can also directly read (simple) TeX pattern files. There is basically no restriction on the number of languages which ca

[Groff] mom: Some follow-up questions

2005-03-11 Thread Mats Broberg
> Indeed. AFAIK, groff can't measure the width of serifs. > Besides, IMO, adjusting a dropcap for protruding serifs isn't > a science; it's a complex judgment call. Good evening, I agree. What I meant was that if protruding of drop caps was possible, one could use the function manually, and p

RE: [Groff] The quest for a high-end typesetting system: A few q

2005-03-11 Thread Mats Broberg
[lots of interesting stuff about keeps & floats] > However, there can be some conflicts or inconsistencies > with this mechanism. For instance, if [] is a figure > with a caption and you make an Table-of-Contents entry of > the caption text inside the ".KF ... .KE", then the page > number atta

[Groff] silly question ...

2005-03-11 Thread Lars Segerlund
I have been looking at the output from pic, eqn and friends, and I am a bit amiss to what 'language' they speak, it's not groff intermidiate language to be fed inte gtroff, so what is it then ? Also what is the recommended language for a groff preprocessor ? I have been oogling the doc

Re: [Groff] silly question ...

2005-03-11 Thread Larry McVoy
It's pure roff. That's the language that all the macro packages are implemented in. Think of roff as assembler and the macro packages as C and you are pretty close. On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 06:58:45PM +0100, Lars Segerlund wrote: > > I have been looking at the output from pic, eqn and friends

Re: [Groff] mom: Some follow-up questions

2005-03-11 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005, Mats Broberg wrote: > > Indeed. AFAIK, groff can't measure the width of serifs. > > Besides, IMO, adjusting a dropcap for protruding serifs isn't > > a science; it's a complex judgment call. > > I agree. What I meant was that if protruding of drop caps was possible, > one

RE: [Groff] mom: Some follow-up questions

2005-03-11 Thread Mats Broberg
> The mom macros came into being primarily to serve the needs > of typesetters and non-technical writers. I realized that > would be annoying to technical writers who liked mom but > needed greater functionality (floats and keeps, > cross-referencing, nested footnotes, etc.), but no more > an

Re: [Groff] mom: Some follow-up questions

2005-03-11 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> Btw, I think I read somewhere that groff never ever hyphenates > the last word on a page. Is that true? I guess that makes the > guys over at comp.text.tex envious. There are quite a few > threads about how to make TeX & Children succeed with that...! Don't draw premature conclusions from this

Re: [Groff] funding for groff hacking?

2005-03-11 Thread Larry Kollar
One thing I would like to see is the original AT&T docs brought into alignment with the current groff. I think it is an embarrassment that the groff docs aren't in roff, that's like using CVS to store the sources to Subversion, it doesn't say much for our faith in groff. I've been threatening to

RE: [Groff] mom: Some follow-up questions

2005-03-11 Thread Mats Broberg
> > Btw, I think I read somewhere that groff never ever hyphenates the > > last word on a page. Is that true? I guess that makes the > guys over at > > comp.text.tex envious. There are quite a few threads about > how to make > > TeX & Children succeed with that...! > > Don't draw premature co

[Groff] questions about postscript and tex/latex output

2005-03-11 Thread Robert Dodier
Hi everyone, I have a couple of simple questions which I hope you can help me with. The files I am working with (composed in 1985) are composed with MS macros. (1) The postscript output option (-T ps) puts the stuff between .DS/.DE in variable-width font, although I would have expected fixed widt

Re: [Groff] mom: Some follow-up questions

2005-03-11 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005, Mats Broberg wrote: > Since I don't know much about groff yet, this may be a uninformed > question - but is it possible to use e.g. other listmembers' specific > macros for crossreferences together with mom? I browsed the archives > and found out that e.g. Jon Snader has som

RE: [Groff] questions about postscript and tex/latex output

2005-03-11 Thread Ted Harding
Hi Robert, On 12-Mar-05 Robert Dodier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a couple of simple questions which I hope you > can help me with. The files I am working with (composed > in 1985) are composed with MS macros. > > (1) The postscript output option (-T ps) puts the stuff > between .DS/.DE in

Re: [Groff] Extending GNU PIC to include animation

2005-03-11 Thread Manas Laha
Ralph Corderoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Gaius, > I was wondering if this idea has any wider usage (and whether it is > feasible or whether the idea has been tried before?). Are you aware of A System for Algorithm Animation (Tutorial and User Manual). CSTR #132, J. L. Bentley and B. W.