Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-02-22 Thread Dave Kemper
On 2/6/24, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Fair! I forgot about this. Before posting, I scanned down the request > list in groff(7) to protect myself from embarrassment--uselessly. The advantage of my brain holding far fewer groff requests than yours is that it can allocate space for more detail a

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-02-06 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-02-05T13:11:04-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 2/5/24, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > As far as I know, groff has never extended AT&T troff syntax in _this_ > > respect. > > > > The argument count to requests (unlike macros) is seemingly sacrosanct. > > Groff extended the .ss request by add

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-02-05 Thread Dave Kemper
On 2/5/24, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > As far as I know, groff has never extended AT&T troff syntax in _this_ > respect. > > The argument count to requests (unlike macros) is seemingly sacrosanct. Groff extended the .ss request by adding an optional second parameter where AT&T's took only one.

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-02-05 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-01-23T22:13:26-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 1/23/24, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > At 2024-01-23T20:52:34-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > >> However, .bp arguably shouldn't have been affected by the change, > >> since it probably wasn't subject to the same historical ambiguity. > > > > I agre

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-24 Thread T . Kurt Bond
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:10:00 -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 1/23/24, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > I have a groff -ms source file > [...] > > When I groff it with version 1.23.0 the page breaks > > corresponding to the explicit .bp requests are missing. > > This item in the (very lengthy) NEWS file fo

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/23/24, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2024-01-23T20:52:34-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: >> However, .bp arguably shouldn't have been affected by the change, >> since it probably wasn't subject to the same historical ambiguity. > > I agree, and I wasn't happy about it. I wonder if the proper way

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Dave, At 2024-01-23T20:52:34-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > However, .bp arguably shouldn't have been affected by the change, > since it probably wasn't subject to the same historical ambiguity. I agree, and I wasn't happy about it. > (I bet implementing that distinction would require some macro

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-01-24T02:26:44+, Bjarni Ingi Gislason wrote: > This is a regression (not backward compatible) It's a _change_. That's why it's documented in the ChangeLog file. It is a change that can have a significant measurable effect on user documents. That's why it's documented in the NEWS f

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/23/24, Bjarni Ingi Gislason wrote: > Macros for historical documents should be put into a separate > directory (e.g., tmac/historical), which can then be searched > with the '-M ' option. As the NEWS item (posted in full a couple hours ago in this thread) mentions, this change *increases*

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Bjarni Ingi Gislason
This is a regression (not backward compatible) caused by Branden acting as a developer (not as a maintainer). This is the second case of this kind of a bug (bug #65077), see for example "CSTR #54", chapter 5, about the 'ns' request or the "groff.info" (info groff) and groff(7) (incomplete).

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-01-23T19:10:00-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 1/23/24, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > I have a groff -ms source file > [...] > > When I groff it with version 1.23.0 the page breaks > > corresponding to the explicit .bp requests are missing. > > This item in the (very lengthy) NEWS file for 1.23 p

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/23/24, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > I have a groff -ms source file [...] > When I groff it with version 1.23.0 the page breaks > corresponding to the explicit .bp requests are missing. This item in the (very lengthy) NEWS file for 1.23 probably explains the change you're seeing: The s (ms) macro