Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-30 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 3/27/14, Peter Schaffter wrote: > > Have you checked out the 'install-font.sh' script at > > > > http://www.schaffter.ca/mom/mom-05.html#install-font > > > > Takes about two seconds to install a font. > > I've used this script and I agree it's great

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-30 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 03:34:27AM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > > > But my fundamental complaint about Knuthian line-breaking is > > that anything that takes 66 journal pages to describe can't be > > right. > Most of the 66 pages are motivation, examples, and results. The description of the algori

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Have you checked out the 'install-font.sh' script [...] > > I've used this script and I agree it's great. But it's not part of > groff, not distributed with groff, [...] I don't object if someone is adding this to groff's `contrib' directory (however, using a better name like `install-groff-

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-28 Thread Dave Kemper
On 3/27/14, Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014, Boss Hog wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 03:34:27AM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: >> > >> > My feeling is that the quality of the line-breaking algorithm is something >> > that will be noticed by typography nerds, but the difficulty of insta

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Eric, > Does anyone have contact with the author? I cannot think of any other > plaisible way to trace the location of the code back to a person with > release authority at Alcatel-Lucent. He's at Drew now. http://www.users.drew.edu/~cvanwyk/cvwvita.htm I think that email address may be out

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-27 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014, Boss Hog wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 03:34:27AM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > > > > My feeling is that the quality of the line-breaking algorithm is something > > that will be noticed by typography nerds, but the difficulty of installing > > new typefaces... Have you chec

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-26 Thread Boss Hog
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 03:34:27AM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > > My feeling is that the quality of the line-breaking algorithm is something > that will be noticed by typography nerds, but the difficulty of installing > new typefaces is something that will be noticed by any groff user who > wants a

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> My feeling is that the quality of the line-breaking algorithm is > something that will be noticed by typography nerds, [...] You will notice that immediately if you reduce the line length. The shorter the lines, the more problematic is groff's paragraph layout. If you want to set, say, three-c

Re: [Groff] mission statement 3

2014-03-26 Thread Dave Kemper
On 3/25/14, Doug McIlroy wrote: > As for real Knuthian line-breaking: when forced to use TeX, I > typically resort to "/sloppy" mode to avoid the temper tantrums > TeX throws when it can't do a good job. I've never used TeX, so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are the temper tantrums peculiar