Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-28 Thread Ted Harding
On 27-Aug-2014 22:39:23 Dale Snell wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:04:27 -0400 > Doug McIlroy wrote: > >> Groff is open source. A conscientious author will strive >> to make source--the whole source including documentation--as >> easily portable as possible. Documentation created in the back >> r

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, Werner wrote: > Mhmm. According to my dictionary `libertine' has more than a single > meaning, some of them fitting into the idea of a freely available > font. It's not restricted to `rake'. Right. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/libertine says Noun ... 2.

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I hope "Linux Libertine" is a joke that I don't happen to >> understand. > > Linux Libertine is the name of a free/open typeface. Whether the > name was a deliberate joke or not I do not know. Possibly someone > forgot to look up "libertine" in the dictionary? Mhmm. According to my diction

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> Possibly someone forgot to look up "libertine" in the > dictionary? Wikipedia defines libertine as "one devoid of most moral restraints, which are seen as unnecessary or undesirable". Isn't that the epitome of "open"?

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Dale Snell
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:04:27 -0400 Doug McIlroy wrote: > Groff is open source. A conscientious author will strive > to make source--the whole source including documentation--as > easily portable as possible. Documentation created in the back > room and distributed only in PDF is the antithesis of

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Carsten Kunze
> Groff is open source. A conscientious author will strive > to make source--the whole source including documentation--as > easily portable as possible. Documentation created in the back > room and distributed only in PDF is the antithesis of open. I fully agree! (Although this discussion not tou

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Doug McIlroy
Groff is open source. A conscientious author will strive to make source--the whole source including documentation--as easily portable as possible. Documentation created in the back room and distributed only in PDF is the antithesis of open. I hope "Linux Libertine" is a joke that I don't happen

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> For the troff doc (from J. Osanna and BWK) I would suggest > the traditional standard fonts. For the other documents > Pierre-Jean has an idea for a replacement. Don't you agree > with his proposal? My point was that for someone simply downloading the sources to install the program it is not

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Carsten Kunze
> > > Using private, non-standard, or not-included fonts to > > > document the package with the fonts makes utterly no sense. > > > I agree and I can't understand Gunnar here. > > I think it's perfectly understandable. It's an advertising > document, intended to show off the capabilities of the

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> > Using private, non-standard, or not-included fonts to > > document the package with the fonts makes utterly no sense. > I agree and I can't understand Gunnar here. I think it's perfectly understandable. It's an advertising document, intended to show off the capabilities of the program. *Of

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Blake McBride
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Pierre-Jean wrote: > Blake McBride wrote: > > > The documents should be changed to use included or > > standard fonts only. > > For the troff documentation I agree, we should use the > default font. > > > If included or standard fonts are not good enough - take >

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Pierre-Jean
Blake McBride wrote: > The documents should be changed to use included or > standard fonts only. For the troff documentation I agree, we should use the default font. > If included or standard fonts are not good enough - take > that up with X11 et al. That's the case of the other documents, whic

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Carsten Kunze
> Using private, non-standard, or not-included fonts to document the package > with the fonts makes utterly no sense. The documents should be changed to > use included or standard fonts only. This will avoid every new user from > questioning their build or the package itself. If included or stan

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-27 Thread Blake McBride
Using private, non-standard, or not-included fonts to document the package with the fonts makes utterly no sense. The documents should be changed to use included or standard fonts only. This will avoid every new user from questioning their build or the package itself. If included or standard fon