> BTW--something I've never figured out is whether it's possible to
> set up kern pairs in groff font files that have "space" as the first
> element of the pair.
This is not possible.
Werner
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014, Dale Snell wrote:
> But I am wondering if the publishing houses are hiring
> professionals anymore.
Pretty much, no, at least here in Canada. To be expected now that
typesetter, as a recognized trade, is dead.
--
Peter Schaffter
http://www.schaffter.ca
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 01:53:20PM -0500, Peter Schaffter wrote:
> > ... ease of reading or better comprehension ...
> >have nothing to do with "the rules." Sigh.
> :
> The matter gets more complicated when you have sentences that end
> with "r." or "y.".
>
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:31:48 +0100
Tadziu Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > > So the default groff behavior of adding additional space
> > > between sentences also does not follow today's typical US
> > > typography. You would have to specify ".ss 12 0" to achieve
> > > US convention.
>
> > It seems ease
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014, Mike Bianchi wrote:
> It seems ease of reading or better comprehension (which are the reasons I
> prefer extra space after sentences, etc.) have nothing to do with "the rules."
> Sigh.
I wouldn't say "nothing," but the issue of spacing between sentences
is tricky and hard to
> > So the default groff behavior of adding additional space
> > between sentences also does not follow today's typical US
> > typography. You would have to specify ".ss 12 0" to achieve
> > US convention.
> It seems ease of reading or better comprehension (which are
> the reasons I prefer extra
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 08:17:50PM -0600, Dave Kemper wrote:
> On 11/12/14, Carsten Kunze wrote:
> > by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line ends with
> > ":". Is this correct US English typography?
>
> Most modern US typography uses the same amount of space for everythin
On 11/12/14, Carsten Kunze wrote:
> by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line ends with
> ":". Is this correct US English typography?
Most modern US typography uses the same amount of space for everything
on the line: between sentences, between words, and after any
punctuat
Hi jkl,
> If the succeeding clause is independent, put it on a different line
> and let troff treat it as end-of-sentence. If it's not, leave it in
> the running text and let troff treat as end-of-word.
Yep, matches how I understand English English. For the end of word:\&
suffix with a zero-wi
Carsten Kunze wrote:
|"James K. Lowden" wrote:
|> It is not incorrect. Typographical convention has varied over time and
|> treatment of the colon along with it. So, "correct" is hard to pin
|> down.
|>
|> I was taught 500 moons ago that a colon may be followed by one or two
|> spaces
Clarke Echols wrote:
> Only input lines that end with an end-of-sentence character
> (including colon) is treated other than as a normal single-space-
> between-words situation -- or at least that's my understanding.
Ok, .cflags 1 sets it. I didn't get it on first reading of the
documenta
On 11/12/2014 03:13 PM, Carsten Kunze wrote:
Werner LEMBERG wrote:
How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends a
sentence, 1.2 times the wordspace after a colon? Or some other
fraction?
groff's `.ss' command allows this.
But groff does not distinguish between an input lin
Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends a
> > sentence, 1.2 times the wordspace after a colon? Or some other
> > fraction?
>
> groff's `.ss' command allows this.
But groff does not distinguish between an input line that ends with a word and
an inpu
On 11/12/2014 03:02 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
That is new to me. I thought that only one space is
used after a colon.
Why do people always think that space should exist
only in integer multiples of a basic space quantum?
This is what people used with old typewriters.
How about 1.5 time
>> That is new to me. I thought that only one space is
>> used after a colon.
>
> Why do people always think that space should exist
> only in integer multiples of a basic space quantum?
This is what people used with old typewriters.
> How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends
> That is new to me. I thought that only one space is
> used after a colon.
Why do people always think that space should exist
only in integer multiples of a basic space quantum?
How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that
ends a sentence, 1.2 times the wordspace after a colon?
Or some
"James K. Lowden" wrote:
> It is not incorrect. Typographical convention has varied over time and
> treatment of the colon along with it. So, "correct" is hard to pin
> down.
>
> I was taught 500 moons ago that a colon may be followed by one or two
> spaces depending on purpose. Examples:
Peter Schaffter wrote:
> For typeset copy with proportionally-spaced fonts, no. For
> monospaced fonts (terminal), yes, but only if sentences are
> separated by two wordspaces as well.
That is new to me. I thought that only one space is used after a colon.
So now what about the behavior of gr
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:08:12 +0100 (CET)
Carsten Kunze wrote:
> by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line ends
> with ":". Is this correct US English typography?
It is not incorrect. Typographical convention has varied over time and
treatment of the colon along with it.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014, Carsten Kunze wrote:
> Hello,
>
> by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line
> ends with ":". Is this correct US English typography?
For typeset copy with proportionally-spaced fonts, no. For
monospaced fonts (terminal), yes, but only if sentences are
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