Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-17 Thread Keith Marshall
On Sunday 16 March 2008 06:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > I am just a bit sad that though there is a lot of talent and > > experience around, development is not seen to be a priority > > anywhere.  But we have been at this topic a year or so ago, so I > > just shut up. > > Development is always a ma

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-16 Thread Miklos Somogyi
[.] Development is always a matter of time. As you can see, I'm the only one basically who does some coding. And sadly, I can't afford much time for groff these day. [] There is perfection in this world. I've perfectly forgot about this. I am sorry I was pestering you. My apologies.

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Hmm, what do you mean with `more serious graphics'? What > > operation do you have in mind which can't be done with the scheme > > I propose? > > Technically speaking you are absolutely right. This relieves me :-) > This is a nice cando masterpiece of true understanding of how gtroff > work

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-15 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 15/03/2008, at 03:06 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: If you could manage avoiding ‘cooking’ with a a ’one-part series’ (Schemes 3 and 4), that would be GREAT. Then I would not even mind if I could not understand its working :-) Hehe. This would need a new command in groff, and I'm not sure whe

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> >> If you could manage avoiding ‘cooking’ with a a ’one-part series’ > >> (Schemes 3 and 4), that would be GREAT. Then I would not even mind > >> if I could not understand its working :-) > > > > Hehe. This would need a new command in groff, and I'm not sure > > whether it's worth the trouble.

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-14 Thread Miklos Somogyi
[.] If you could manage avoiding ‘cooking’ with a a ’one-part series’ (Schemes 3 and 4), that would be GREAT. Then I would not even mind if I could not understand its working :-) Hehe. This would need a new command in groff, and I'm not sure whether it's worth the trouble. [] T

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Thank you for your post. It works like charm and, since it only > generates 1 pair of EBEGIN-EEND, it is much more preferable to my > current scheme. > > However, one problem: I have no idea how it works, and I am sure > that this would also be the case with other Mr Average Users. First > I

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-12 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 02/03/2008, at 09:28 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: You say that you've found a solution using `.trf' -- please post it here. I haven't, you did. You taught me about this in bits an' pieces a year or so ago: [...] Uuh, how embarassing :-) Doing some debugging, I've found out that .trf does t

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > You say that you've found a solution using `.trf' -- please post > > it here. > > I haven't, you did. You taught me about this in bits an' pieces a > year or so ago: [...] Uuh, how embarassing :-) Doing some debugging, I've found out that .trf does the job right: It doesn't handle the escape

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-03-01 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 01/03/2008, at 6:32 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: In one of my early posts regarding actions a) .. e) I said that processing an eps image needed something "pre", then the image, then something "post". I probably didn't understand the situation to comment on this then. You say that the solu

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In one of my early posts regarding actions a) .. e) I said that > processing an eps image needed something "pre", then the image, then > something "post". I probably didn't understand the situation to comment on this then. > You say that the solution is to use \X with hooks for before and > af

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-29 Thread Miklos Somogyi
Werner, I am glad to see the light at the end of the tunnel. In one of my early posts regarding actions a) .. e) I said that processing an eps image needed something "pre", then the image, then something "post". I reported the problem that with the current tools this required the making of

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> After a lot of cutting it is now under 100k, I hope it will get > through. I think I begin to understand. What you want has absolutely nothing to do with .cf, I believe: If you say \X'ps: file foo' grops produces BEGIN END However, you want to insert some stuff right after `BEGIN'

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> After a lot of cutting it is now under 100k, I hope it will get > through. Thanks. It still exceeds the limit, but I've just approved the mail. Werner

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The "\X'ps: file ..." thing can read anything but it can not be used > in an embedded macro that is a "ps: exec" stuff itself. That's why > you have to close this embedded macro for a)-c) with a "\Y", then > you read-in your file with "\X", then you need to open another > embedded "ps: exec" macr

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-22 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 23/02/2008, at 4:28 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Werner, I get all your e-mails in pairs (with the exact same date), a minute or so apart. Yes, one from the groff list, and one directly from me. My mailing program automatically removes such duplicates... Well, PS is not the only output d

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Werner, I get all your e-mails in pairs (with the exact same date), > a minute or so apart. Yes, one from the groff list, and one directly from me. My mailing program automatically removes such duplicates... > > Well, PS is not the only output device driver... > > > Then it would be good to s

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-18 Thread Miklos Somogyi
Werner, I get all your e-mails in pairs (with the exact same date), a minute or so apart. On 18/02/2008, at 7:33 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Yes, .cf copies the external file (A and B) verbatim, but to the wrong place. Well, it works as documented... The documentation does not seem to sa

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> >> Yes, .cf copies the external file (A and B) verbatim, but to the > >> wrong place. > > > > Well, it works as documented... > > > > The documentation does not seem to say that (unlike .trf's) .cf's > output goes only to the intermediate file, not any further. Is > there any point in having it

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-17 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 18/02/2008, at 5:33 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Yes, .cf copies the external file (A and B) verbatim, but to the wrong place. Well, it works as documented... The documentation does not seem to say that (unlike .trf's) .cf's output goes only to the intermediate file, not any further. I

Re: [Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The 1.19.2 edition of groff documentation presents the trf and cf > requests for including files in diversions. Yes, the wording is a bit unfortunate. > The trf request works well, but it does some processing of its > input. The cf request is supposed to do the same as trf except it > would n

[Groff] Request "cf"

2008-02-16 Thread Miklos Somogyi
The 1.19.2 edition of groff documentation presents the trf and cf requests for including files in diversions. The trf request works well, but it does some processing of its input. The cf request is supposed to do the same as trf except it would not process its input in any way. Unfortunate