Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-09-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I had an example where grap 1.41 was incompatible with post-1.19.2 > pic. This example now works correctly with grap 1.42 and a > relatively recent (Feb 08) version of pic. Hence, it appears that > the problem has been solved. Thanks for testing. I've added to the PROBLEMS file that version

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-08-21 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2008 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > > > I think I have updated grap to stop putting out the construct in > > > question (the "line from (x,y) then down" thing). Can you take a > > > look at the pre-release at > > > http://www.lunabase.org/~faber/Vault/software/grap/grap-1.42.tar

RE: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-08-20 Thread Y T
nu.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I got this response from Ted. > >> I think I have updated grap to stop putting out the construct in >> question (the "line from (x,y) then down&q

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-08-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > I think I have updated grap to stop putting out the construct in > > question (the "line from (x,y) then down" thing). Can you take a > > look at the pre-release at > > http://www.lunabase.org/~faber/Vault/software/grap/grap-1.42.tar.gz > > and see if it works properly for you? > > Please te

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I got this response from Ted. > I think I have updated grap to stop putting out the construct in > question (the "line from (x,y) then down" thing). Can you take a > look at the pre-release at > http://www.lunabase.org/~faber/Vault/software/grap/grap-1.42.tar.gz > and see if it works properly fo

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-21 Thread Keith Marshall
On Thursday 20 March 2008 22:27, Y T wrote: > I suppose it is going to boil down to a matter of "taste". > Old AT&T pic treated >      line from 1,1 then up 1 > exactly the same as >      line from  1,1 up 1 As I read pic documentation, these *should* behave differently; the former should plot tw

RE: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-20 Thread Y T
the new groff pic behavior. Maintaining compatibility with the old AT&T pic is another argument for restoring the old behavior. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: groff@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:15:11 + > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-20 Thread Keith Marshall
On Thursday 20 March 2008 18:31, Y T wrote: > To me it is perfectly natural that >        line from 1,1 then up 1 > is different from >        line then up 1 Well yes, they are different in the sense that the former explicitly moves to point (1,1), while the latter simply starts plotting from the

RE: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-20 Thread Y T
To me it is perfectly natural that line from 1,1 then up 1 is different from line then up 1 In the first case, there is a very clear intuitive specification of a path that starts at 1,1 and then goes up 1 -- it is not ambiguous. In the second case, there is no clear specification of

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > The problem reported does not occur with old AT&T pic (from the > > 80s). I have that old version running and tested it before > > reporting the problem. Specifically, with old AT&T pic, the code > > > > .PS > > line from 0,0 to 3,3 > > line from 1,1 then up 1 > > .PE > >

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[also sent to the groff list] > The problem reported does not occur with old AT&T pic (from the > 80s). I have that old version running and tested it before > reporting the problem. Specifically, with old AT&T pic, the code > > .PS > line from 0,0 to 3,3 > line from 1,1 then up 1

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The problem reported does not occur with old AT&T pic (from the > 80s). I have that old version running and tested it before > reporting the problem. Specifically, with old AT&T pic, the code > > .PS > line from 0,0 to 3,3 > line from 1,1 then up 1 > .PE > > draws just two

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-19 Thread Y T
Re: From: Werner LEMBERG I'm forwarding this bug report to the list here; can someone please test grap with non-GNU pic? The problem reported does not occur with old AT&T pic (from the 80s). I have that old version running and tested it before reporting the problem. Spe

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > The problem might be in grap, assuming a GNUism of pic which has > > been fixed recently to be compatible with other PIC > > implementations. > > What about my observation, > > subject "[Groff] pic problems with grap" Still waiting for Ted... Werner

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-16 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > > > Ted, have you ever tried to run grap with, say, Dwight's dpic? > > > What about heirloom's pic implementation? > > > > Aha... that might explain the problems I was having with grap when I > > tried it yesterday. I had assumed the problem wa

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Ted, have you ever tried to run grap with, say, Dwight's dpic? > > What about heirloom's pic implementation? > > Aha... that might explain the problems I was having with grap when I > tried it yesterday. I had assumed the problem was in grap. The problem might be in grap, assuming a GNUism of

Re: [Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-11 Thread Larry Kollar
> I'm forwarding this bug report to the list here; can someone please > test grap with non-GNU pic? > > Ted, have you ever tried to run grap with, say, Dwight's dpic? What > about heirloom's pic implementation? Aha... that might explain the problems I was having with grap when I tried it yeste

[Groff] Fw: problem with pic

2008-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm forwarding this bug report to the list here; can someone please test grap with non-GNU pic? Ted, have you ever tried to run grap with, say, Dwight's dpic? What about heirloom's pic implementation? Werner --- Begin Message --- GROFF VERSION: various CVS versions since Dec 2006 up to c