Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread John Gardner
That's simultaneously impressive and revolting. Great work! I'm going to be sick. (the typophile in me wants me to hang myself) On 25 October 2016 at 09:46, Gerard Lally wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 23:38, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: > > > > Just for the lulz, check this out: > > > > www.usm.

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Gerard Lally
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 23:38, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: > > Just for the lulz, check this out: > > www.usm.uni-muenchen.de/~hoffmann/roff/tmp/dtp.pdf > > (I'll take it back down tomorrow). And try to imagine some > fancier fonts with this. Woah! Amazing! Any chance you can upload the source?

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
Just for the lulz, check this out: www.usm.uni-muenchen.de/~hoffmann/roff/tmp/dtp.pdf (I'll take it back down tomorrow). And try to imagine some fancier fonts with this. Anyhow, as others have already said, there are other tools more suitable for this type of job than groff. Groff is great

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Peter Schaffter
Gerard -- On Mon, Oct 24, 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > What if you have a mixed document, like a magazine article, where > you might have pages of text interspersed with a page here and > there of text and graphics? You would still want *roff for its > typographical benefits, surely? Have you eve

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Gerard, we have been using it not since the dawn of creation, but >> since slightly later -- the creation of dawn -- when the distant >> horizons of the dark lands occupied by other operating systems >> began to shimmer under the glowing light of an emerging Unix. > > I feel too young for this

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread John Gardner
I feel too young for this mailing list. GROFL. On 25 October 2016 at 02:28, Ted Harding wrote: > On 24-Oct-2016 12:28:05 Gerard Lally wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 13:18, Damian McGuckin wrote: > >> On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > >> > >> > I anticipate *roff satisfying 95% of m

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Ted Harding
On 24-Oct-2016 12:28:05 Gerard Lally wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 13:18, Damian McGuckin wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: >> >> > I anticipate *roff satisfying 95% of my needs Damian: articles, letters, >> > reports, technical papers. It's great to hear from you people who ha

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Gerard Lally
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 13:18, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > > > I anticipate *roff satisfying 95% of my needs Damian: articles, letters, > > reports, technical papers. It's great to hear from you people who have > > been using it "from the dawn of creation"!

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: I anticipate *roff satisfying 95% of my needs Damian: articles, letters, reports, technical papers. It's great to hear from you people who have been using it "from the dawn of creation"! I think that is a compliment??? Regards - Damian Pacific Enginee

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread John Gardner
I like to think of Roff as the assembly language of desktop publishing: anything is possible, but don't expect it to be easy. =) On 24 October 2016 at 20:28, Gerard Lally wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 04:58, Clarke Echols wrote: > > Twenty years ago, I used troff to create camera-ready artwo

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Gerard Lally
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 04:58, Clarke Echols wrote: > Twenty years ago, I used troff to create camera-ready artwork for a > double-sided > printed circuit card for a product I was designing the control > electronics and > bar-graph display for. The product was awarded "Top 20 new automotive > se

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Gerard Lally
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, at 00:55, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > > > Well the sample is meaningless; I searched for a "desktop publishing" > > image and chose that one at random as a reasonably complex example of > > what I had in mind. Good typography is one of t

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-24 Thread Gerard Lally
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, at 23:24, Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > > Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, > > using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends > > more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like to have a br