Re: @mozilla.org email addresses for Mozilla Reps

2013-10-25 Thread David Ascher
Email addresses that die are a lot less useful than email addresses that never die. I understand the desire to not have people misrepresent their level of affiliation with Mozilla, but I don’t believe technology or policy can solve that problem. Tying an address to “currently active” also means

Re: @mozilla.org email addresses for Mozilla Reps

2013-10-25 Thread David Ascher
On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Sheeri Cabral wrote: > I'm all for this, too, if there's a clear directive and support for this > infrastructure. Giving out an e-mail address is a great badge of honor, but > even uses that are "routine" like sending out a large attachment to many > people, can e

Re: @mozilla.org email addresses for Mozilla Reps

2013-10-25 Thread David Ascher
On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:14 PM, cshie...@mozilla.com wrote: > I'm not trying to shoot this down, I want to make sure that we all are aware > that this can quickly become a significant investment, and then how do we > scale it to the vision that Mitchell gave us for our contributor base in the > y

Re: @mozilla.org email addresses for Mozilla Reps

2013-10-29 Thread David Ascher
On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> The first is that we want to have a discussion forum where we can talk >> about sensitive subjects in a group larger than "employees" but smaller >> than "public". We've needed this for ages, and we still need it. And we >> need to define w

Re: "Mafia" trust group proposal

2013-11-04 Thread David Ascher
On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: > Majken asked for a location for the current version of the proposal to > build a trusted group of Mozillians. Here it is: > > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Trusted It seems fairly simple to agree on the process to establish a level of

Re: "Mafia" trust group proposal

2013-11-04 Thread David Ascher
untrusted, I'm focusing on rewarding openness and community participation. E.g. How can a problem be solved by being more participatory. Seems to help me. --david ascher Original message From: Mike Connor Date: To: Majken Connor Cc: mozilla-governa...@lists.mozilla.org,F

Re: Wrapping up 'what does Mozillian mean?' discussion

2013-12-03 Thread David Ascher
On Dec 3, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > > The proposal is in the form an image, you can find it here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/59716899@N02/11199165833/ I made a text version of your drawing (with the amazing asciiflow.com) just for fun and for people reading this on low-ba

Re: Wrapping up 'what does Mozillian mean?' discussion

2013-12-06 Thread David Ascher
On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > And now for a different idea :-) […] This expansive definition is definitely the more exciting one to me. We can (and will) define various levels of mozillianness, impact, authority, etc., but making the bar low enough that _any contribution

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2014-04-04 Thread David Ascher
On Apr 4, 2014, at 8:37 AM, BRIAN LUWIS wrote: > Thank you for the response. I heard members of the board resigned based on > his beliefs so even if he was not fired, his freedom of speech was clearly > not supported which is hypocritical based on what Mozilla stands for. Those press repor

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2014-04-04 Thread David Ascher
Yes I've been disappointed at the lack of fact checking in many media outlets this week. -- david ascher On April 4, 2014 8:55:51 AM PDT, BRIAN LUWIS wrote: >I'm traveling in Ethiopia and I heard it on BBC tv and also saw it >online. > >Brian Luwis | 6723 Whittier A

FYI: FAQ available

2014-04-06 Thread David Ascher
FYI, to those folks kindly answering the barrage of emails, there is now a FAQ addressing some of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of this: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignation/ Feel free to redirect people to that document (if you choose to answer). —david __

Re: FYI: FAQ available

2014-04-06 Thread David Ascher
I'll ask the PR team. -- david ascher On April 6, 2014 2:00:52 PM PDT, Boris Zbarsky wrote: >On 4/6/14 1:57 PM, David Ascher wrote: >> FYI, to those folks kindly answering the barrage of emails, there is >now a FAQ addressing some of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of &

Re: Evolving the Mozilla Project Meeting

2014-05-22 Thread David Ascher
On May 22, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christie Koehler wrote: > Could we also use this change as an opportunity to advertise other > channels that are public, but specific to particular projects? E.g. "Our > project-wide meeting is no longer totally public, but here are public > meetings you can atten

Re: Evolving the Mozilla Project Meeting

2014-05-22 Thread David Ascher
On May 22, 2014, at 5:19 AM, curtis.koe...@gmail.com wrote: > Honestly, I am not a big fan of this change. The fact that we have an open > and public meeting is what I think helps us build community. People can tune > in and take a casual look at what we're up to. Find things they might be > i

Re: Creating a volunteer agreement

2014-05-30 Thread David Ascher
Hi David — I’m quite supportive of the general goal of clarifying the social contract that we have with each other (assuming a bit that that’s part of the motivation here). This document reads like a legal document, not a social contract. Let’s find a way to tweak the language, the framing, et

Re: Logging All Public Project IRC Channels

2015-01-23 Thread David Ascher
>From a communication systems design point of view (using the psychological definitions and not technical definitions of those words), what's important in these choices is that the privacy expectations of the people using a medium are not violated. If people expect a communication to be private or

Re: Mozilla email accounts associated with community projects

2015-04-24 Thread David Ascher
This feels fairly straightforward to me especially if we explicitly don't tie the discussion to the broader mozilla.org accounts for individuals thread. Kent, I suggest we just make a proposal to IT about the specifics of that account management issue. I think all we need to understand is how to

Re: Some people on Mozilla Reps have inappropriate City-State

2015-05-26 Thread David Ascher
I suggest everyone (but in particular reps portal + mozillians.org) go back to the actual use cases to determine the approach on a case by case basis. In most social software (which I think reps + mozillians are), jurisdictional affiliation is never actually a P1. "Finding people near me" is; "fin

Re: Module Proposal: Mozilla Communities Web Services

2016-02-16 Thread David Ascher
Good to see a proposal. I think it'd be good to articulate a bit more of the plan and its purpose, before diving into the details of module structure, which feel a bit premature to me. In particular, I'd like to understand: - what kinds of websites does Mozilla offer / underwrite, and for what p

Re: Module Proposal: Mozilla Communities Web Services

2016-02-16 Thread David Ascher
Thanks Kensie -- I wholeheartedly support the general idea of trying to bring some cohesion to the systems that still allow decentralized expression by volunteers of Mozilla in their local context. We can and should make it easier for people to create web presences and collaborative spaces where

Re: Module Proposal: Mozilla Communities Web Services

2016-02-16 Thread David Ascher
I may be missing some background. Can you explain what you would do as module owners that you can't do today, and/or whose code or actions you seek to influence as module owner? On Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 7:44 PM Majken Connor wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:04 PM, David A

Re: Module Proposal: Mozilla Communities Web Services

2016-02-17 Thread David Ascher
Thanks Kenzie. This set of reasons makes sense to me. My offer to help if/when scope changes stands. --David On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, 7:25 AM Majken Connor wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM, David Ascher > wrote: > >> I may be missing some background. Can you explain what

Re: Proposal for Creating an "Emeritus" Status

2012-11-07 Thread David Ascher
Mitchell et al. -- I think that transferring responsibilities is a key part of the contributor lifecycle, and we should definitely encourage it. In any system of reward or recognition, however, we should be thoughtful about the outcomes we want "socially encouraged," and make sure that the sy

Re: Adding David Ascher as a peer to the Module Ownership Module

2012-11-28 Thread David Ascher
honored and looking forward to it. --da Mitchell Baker wrote: Done: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Activities Thanks David! ml On 11/24/12 6:38 PM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > I'm planning to add dascher as a peer to the Module Ownership Module. > There's a lot of work to be done. I hope to f

Re: Proposal: Internet Public Policy Module

2012-12-17 Thread David Ascher
On 2012-12-19, at 4:15 PM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > Hi, > I'm proposing we create an Internet Public Policy Module, as described below. > I'm also proposing the Module Owner be Harvey Anderson. Harvey's been > leading the global side of our public policy issues for a while now. Having > a Mo

Re: Proposal to Create "Area Expert Advisors" for the Internet Public Policy Module

2013-01-09 Thread David Ascher
sounds good to me! can we assume that the module owner has discretion to grant and revoke such an designation? (trying to avoid extra process). I'm assuming this is mostly an honorific, and intended to communicate to the community in a shorthand why a module owner e.g. would take person A's opi

Re: Mozilla and Non-Copyleft Licensing

2013-01-21 Thread David Ascher
> 1) Do we think there are circumstances under which it is best for > Mozilla to release software under a "no copyleft" (a.k.a. "permissive") > license? If so, what are they? There are two kinds of reasons motivating a copyleft requirement in a software release: moral ones, and pragmatic ones. I

Re: Mozilla and Non-Copyleft Licensing

2013-01-21 Thread David Ascher
On 2013-01-21, at 3:07 PM, Justin Dolske wrote: > > * For projects that have strayed from copyleft licensing, was there a > particular reason why? My own take is that license choice is often thought of as a social signal -- it's a way of telling a community "hey, , we're like you!" (and

Re: Mozilla and Non-Copyleft Licensing

2013-01-22 Thread David Ascher
On 2013-01-22, at 1:33 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: > > Is this a straight either/or? Surely it's a "social pressure OR social > pressure and licensing"? indeed > I think there are good examples, even in our space, of licensing working > as a tool to encourage useful code publication. WebKit Core

Re: new module proposal: Android Background Services

2013-03-05 Thread David Ascher
This is a nit, but the name and/or placement in the module tree could (should?) specify that this is a submodule of the Firefox-on-android product? I can imagine a future where we have other things on android which have background services, and I would expect if such a future were to occur we'd

Re: Modules proposal: documenting existing webdev modules

2013-04-18 Thread David Ascher
a) the webdev technical modules have value today, will have more value when the NOC is in place, and nobody is really objecting to them anyway ;-). I do want to give props to morgamic et al. for realizing that the module system could be applied to his part of the project, which will make it eas