Re: Proposed Update for Email Communications

2017-09-21 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch via governance
On 21/09/2017 01:08, Michele Warther wrote: We’re doing this because all of our users could become impacted by a > few subscribers inactivity. This happens because anyone’s inactivity > influences the delivery of all of our email programs when it becomes > frequent often - we want those who want

Super-review - proposal to remove given lack of super-review-specific usage

2017-07-28 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch via governance
(x-post platform + governance + bmo, please followup-to governance) Today I was asked for super-review. Although I've been around a while, I am not a super-reviewer. I can't remember the last time before today that I was asked (it's quite possibly: never). The person who asked me was mostly ju

Re: Changes to etiquette.html in bugzilla.mozilla.org

2017-01-10 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 10/01/2017 02:30, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/9/17 5:52 PM, Emma Humphries wrote: Yes, I posted about that last week to planet mozilla, and when we take the changes live, I'll talk about tagging at the Monday meeting. I could also take that post and cc it to the usual mailing lists. Please do

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-12-04 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
I don't think we have a concrete 100% worked-out *plan* at this point on exactly how to remove all of XUL, but Benjamin said that there is a *desire* to remove it. I can't speak for platform, but IME certainly large portions of the Firefox frontend team do feel that way. And realistically we *

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-12-03 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 03/12/2015 16:09, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: I'm just going to add that Mitchell's email while we u see stand what she said I think the messaging could have been different. I'm unsure if PR was consulted Did you consult PR before you posted your response? but the end result has been very nega

Re: Current Module Owners.

2015-10-30 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Interestingly, it seems that "Javascript Debugging backend" is still in that page. It should have been removed when the code was removed ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=800200 ). Likewise there probably isn't much point in keeping Venkman either, as it only ever supported that A

Re: Surveillance principles draft

2015-09-10 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 10/09/2015 00:42, Majken Connor wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:36 PM, R Kent James wrote: On 9/9/2015 9:23 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: "Any requirement that systems be designed or modified to enable third-party access to encrypted data undermines user security. The goal of computer security is

Re: Remove Pocket Integration from Firefox

2015-07-08 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 07/07/2015 06:44, B Galliart wrote: I have a hard time believing people see the concerns as legitimate in a world where "advocacy" is just marked hidden and disregarded. I considered responding to this point earlier and didn't, because I didn't want to fan the flames of this thread. Seeing

Re: Remove Pocket Integration from Firefox

2015-06-18 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
As a Mozilla engineer who worked on / reviewed some of the pocket and reader mode stuff: On 18/06/2015 07:44, Dan Stillman wrote: - Is the plan actually to open this feature up with a documented API and in a way that doesn't privilege a single proprietary service? This is certainly what I've

Re: Remove Pocket Integration from Firefox

2015-06-09 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 09/06/2015 14:47, snafumatt...@gmail.com wrote: Adblock plus and ublock origin are by far the most popular add-ons for Firefox. Will you be implementing those by default, too? Part of the effect of these add-ons (in terms of not being tracked and pageload improvements) is currently (being)

Re: Some people on Mozilla Reps have inappropriate City-State

2015-06-09 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 09/06/2015 12:28, Irvin Chen wrote: The list*1 had been inside Firefox for decades in preference/content/language setting *2, Languages and countries/regions are not the same thing. The list in the preferences has language names, and only uses the regionNames list for identifying distincti

Re: Some people on Mozilla Reps have inappropriate City-State

2015-06-09 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Why is this a "good" list? This doesn't have an entry for Kosovo, nor for South Sudan, nor for the most recent incarnation of the various Netherlands Antilles (it still has "Netherlands Antilles" which is no longer a nation state entity) ~ Gijs On 09/06/2015 10:02, Irvin Chen wrote: Just lea

Re: Some people on Mozilla Reps have inappropriate City-State

2015-05-13 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 13/05/2015 21:06, Fred Wenzel wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Majken Connor wrote: It would be interesting to consider the option of including any and all country codes and allowing the user to choose. That would also allow Mozilla to say that it is the individual who is making the

Re: company-confidential or mozillian-confidential?

2015-04-14 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
ployee community members (which, again, is perhaps a reasonable goal, but not the one you cited in support of asking for this). If we're going to try to be more open, let's be more open, and not half-closed still. :-) ~ Gijs No IT/Ops makes sense much like sec bugs do. On Apr 13, 201

Re: company-confidential or mozillian-confidential?

2015-04-13 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
re public too but for the most part the ones I run into and have to be cc'ed on or ask about are operational stuff but not something that demands company-confidential over mozillians - confidential. On Apr 13, 2015 5:25 AM, "Gijs Kruitbosch" wrote: On 13/04/2015 05:46, Benjamin

Re: company-confidential or mozillian-confidential?

2015-04-13 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 13/04/2015 05:46, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: In the cases of things that truly need to be company-confidential then those could still be marked but unless a strong justification could be given for flagging company-confidential then bugs that would ordinarily be made company-confidential would be

Re: Logging All Public Project IRC Channels

2015-01-28 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 28/01/2015 20:00, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: On 28/01/2015 19:52, Fred Wenzel wrote: * let's still figure out how to make "logged and googleable" obvious to people in those channels IMO /topic should have a link. If there is too much in there to do that, assuming we centralize

Re: Logging All Public Project IRC Channels

2015-01-28 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 28/01/2015 19:52, Fred Wenzel wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: So, strawman (which IMO is reasonable): can we check irc.m.o for currently-public channels with 10 or more people in that are not currently being publicly logged, which are clearly project/product

Re: Logging All Public Project IRC Channels

2015-01-27 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 27/01/2015 19:11, Mike Hoye wrote: On 2015-01-27 1:51 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: I'd intended this request to be only for product- and project-related channels, and even then to be opt-in. Blanket opt-out enrollment in anything doesn't rea

Re: Mozilla's privacy choices for the "others"

2015-01-14 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Ehm, I'm pretty sure we will check for updates on release by default. Less sure about FHR and crashreporter, but I was under the impression both were opt-out. Un Virumbi, naive question: would you really want to include the update ping in disabling this? (ie no longer getting automated updates

Re: Hypocrisy in Mozilla's deals with China and Russia?

2014-11-25 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 25/11/2014 20:50, Adam Porter wrote: If such a thing happened with Google or Yahoo in [the USA], despite abuses by the NSA, et al, a warrant would still be required at some level, and the accused would still receive a public trial, with a right to counsel, chances to appeal, the right to plead

Re: Revision to Privacy Principles

2014-08-06 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 05/08/2014 18:23, smar...@mozilla.com wrote: On Monday, August 4, 2014 6:47:19 AM UTC-7, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: On 22/07/2014 11:22, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: On 19/07/2014 00:33, Alina Hua wrote: REAL CHOICES (removed) Previous: Educate users whenever we collect any personal

Re: Revision to Privacy Principles

2014-08-04 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 22/07/2014 11:22, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: On 19/07/2014 00:33, Alina Hua wrote: REAL CHOICES (removed) Previous: Educate users whenever we collect any personal information and give them a choice whenever possible. Context: Eliminated based on feedback that the difference between choice and

Re: Creating a volunteer agreement

2014-07-23 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Thanks for this excellent update! There's one more thing that irks me here: On 23/07/2014 13:36, ddi...@mozilla.com wrote: Being a volunteer at Mozilla means you freely donate your time, ideas, heartbeats, etc. to help us accomplish our mission. > You agree that you are here because you are

Re: Revision to Privacy Principles

2014-07-22 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 19/07/2014 00:33, Alina Hua wrote: REAL CHOICES (removed) Previous: Educate users whenever we collect any personal information and give them a choice whenever possible. Context: Eliminated based on feedback that the difference between choice and control wasn't clear, and that the conversatio

Employee NDAs (was: Re: Creating a non-volunteer agreement)

2014-07-10 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 10/07/2014 23:01, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: I recently learned that not all Employees and Contractors are even required to sign NDA's as we often discuss trust around contributors it seems odd that contributors would be held to a higher standard then employees, contractors and interns. I obvi

Re: Mozilla and DRM

2014-05-15 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 15/05/2014 14:01, Jim wrote: On 2014-05-15 11:38, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Rubén Martín wrote: * It's not the first time we take decisions because everyone else is doing it, and we want to keep being relevant. o This worries me the most looking at t

Re: Mozilla and DRM

2014-05-14 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 14/05/2014 20:47, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: There was a town hall about this earlier today. Did the invite not reach you? A lot of this was already discussed. I only received an email from Brian King ~3h ago, via Reps-General. IIRC

Re: Mozilla and DRM

2014-05-14 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 14/05/2014 19:10, Rubén Martín wrote: Hi, I've just found these two articles with the announcement: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/reconciling-mozillas-mission-and-w3c-eme/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/ And since I can't find where the d

Re: Inconsistency: Tracking users with Google Analytics on pages promoting Privacy

2014-05-01 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 01/05/2014 15:43, Pascal Chevrel wrote: Looking at the Piwik site, it seems some big companies like T-Mobile use it, I know the volume we have on mozilla.org so maybe Piwik doesn't scale *yet* to out needs, but this is an open source project and as such, fixable, and that doesn't mean that we

Re: Proposal: Mozilla Gear Module

2014-04-14 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Will there be individual peers as well? You named stakeholder teams, but as David said, no individuals there, either. :-) ~ Gijs On 14/04/2014 16:47, Geoffrey MacDougall wrote: Sorry; to clarify: I would be the owner in my capacity with the Foundation. G. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:43 AM, L.

Re: Take down Mitchell's blog post and the FAQ.

2014-04-09 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 09/04/2014 23:55, Jim Taylor wrote: Mitchell's 'Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO' is ambiguous. Some people defending the treatment of Brendan and Mozilla claim it is being mis-interpreted by many in the media. This post has been up for a week now. It appears that clarifications h

Re: Balancing meritocracy with democratic elements

2014-03-27 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 27/03/2014 01:21, bret...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Though I haven't played around with it yet, from what I understand of Australis, one will have to make an extra click to get to one's add-ons. An extra click to get to add-ons is like a kiss of death to me even and I would hope this feeling coul

Re: Persona changes and communications

2014-03-13 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Indeed. Could we get them to do a 1-3 minute standup/what's-new-in... in the project meeting? Maybe not necessarily every meeting, but maybe a shared slot where we get an update every so often? I would love to keep hearing about what's happening with Persona and Thunderbird. Regular planet post

Re: sponsored new tab tiles - please tell me this is a (bad) joke

2014-02-12 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 12/02/2014 10:11, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: As Bryan Clark put it on Twitter, > The "Mozilla ads" inside Firefox is actually taking us from > http://cl.ly/image/033X3C3R1m3f to http://cl.ly/image/3I172o2f202k > for first run https://twitter.com/clarkbw/status/4306

Re: sponsored new tab tiles - please tell me this is a (bad) joke

2014-02-12 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 12/02/2014 07:42, Jim Porter wrote: On 02/11/2014 07:26 PM, Zack Weinberg wrote: regarding https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2014/02/11/publisher-transformation-with-users-at-the-center/ : Directory Tiles will instead suggest pre-packaged content for first-time users. Some of the

Re: Funding of Lightning

2013-12-11 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 11/12/13, 14:07 , Andi Ye wrote: Mozilla is currently appealing for donations on its Google homepage, even though we see that it had a net income (what commercial companies would call "Net Profit") of US$21.6 million in 2011 (source: Wikipedia). How is whether all of the income of a non-pr

Re: The news about 'Mozilla China had been discovered to 'do some evil', our policy toward customized build of Firefox by local MoCo

2013-12-04 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 04/12/13, 09:06 , Li Gong wrote: The point is that we do redirect the user's link for some affiliate program in Firefox China build, as you said 'our BD team did go overly aggressive in this particular case.' That was a mistake, and once discovered, has been corrected. There were some lap

Re: Manifesto Update

2013-09-30 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 30/09/13 20:44 , Smartin wrote: Here is Carmen's response: Hi Stacy, 1) We'd love to have the Manifesto localized 2) Yes, Michaela is point on. The localizers usually make suggestions on what makes sense. That said, we only deal officially with ES and PT on the Twitter front. We don't hav

Re: Privacy policy update for Firefox Health Report

2013-05-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Thanks for encouraging a discussion about this! I think the general structure of the text is great. Being a nitpicky person, I have some nitty remarks, generally trying to make the phrasing simpler, less technical and easier to understand (which is a little difficult because it's a technical fe

Re: Sharing information with Mozillians only

2013-04-16 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 16/04/13 13:17 , Rubén Martín wrote: El 16/04/13 21:54, to...@mozilla-uk.org escribió: Hello, I'm starting this discussion because I found out that the following has happened: An Etherpad about "needed apps for Firefox OS" was shared amongst all of Reps (URL [1]). It was soon protected with

Re: How and where to search for help at Mozilla

2013-04-05 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 05/04/13 12:26 , Till Schneidereit wrote: Therefore, I think this is a symptom of the problem that we are not teaching new employees about the culture, values and methods of working of the Mozilla community nearly as well as we should. There continues to be a significant need for an onboarding

Re: Mozilla and Non-Copyleft Licensing

2013-01-21 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 21/01/2013 22:31 PM, David Ascher wrote: we know that bad guys will fork Firefox and turn it into malware, and that copyright is a better tool for reigning them in than licensing law Did you mean to say "trademarks"? Or did I miss something WRT copyright helping us fight against malware f

governance@lists.mozilla.org

2012-09-19 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 19/09/2012 09:31 AM, David Bruant wrote: Le 18/09/2012 19:00, John Jensen a écrit : Hi David, The hiring process, for various reasons cannot be considered as a meritocracy Could you expand on that a bit? In answers by other people, it's been answered, but here are some elements: First, Mo