I'm just a "rando" from the peanut gallery, but over the past 2 years I've
nearly *always* been able to find bindings with which to "hang things on" a
Go-based prototype, if indeed it wasn't already in the stdlib.
So golang has become my 'go-to' for prototyping, replacing Python entirely
for new w
easy prototyping != scaling
Pick one.
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Liam Breck wrote:
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>
> Go mindshare suffers if it's seen as worse for prototyping, and necessary
> only for scale. Especially as there are more efficient (albeit more complex)
> ways to achieve scale.
>
>> On Mon, Jan
Go mindshare suffers if it's seen as worse for prototyping, and necessary
only for scale. Especially as there are more efficient (albeit more
complex) ways to achieve scale.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 10:55 AM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Michael Jones :
> > Python, to its credit, has the nice inclusive
Michael Jones :
> Python, to its credit, has the nice inclusive property of extensible
> interpreters of being friendly to "hang things" onto just like ornaments on
> trees. By linking with C/C++-libraries and adding glue/shim code, anything
> can be used from Python. This facility and interpretive
I appreciate the concern at the possibility that "mindshare" is decreasing and
would rather read of such than not in order to take that into consideration. So
I appreciate your message. But I do wonder what a similar source would say
about YAML. I imagine the chart would be relatively flat, yet
Developer: not sure this is going to work... use Python for POC
SVP: Looks great! Ship it!
Developer: but wait...
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Michael Jones wrote:
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>
> Python, to its credit, has the nice inclusive property of extensible
> interpreters of being friendly to "hang things" o
Python, to its credit, has the nice inclusive property of extensible
interpreters of being friendly to "hang things" onto just like ornaments on
trees. By linking with C/C++-libraries and adding glue/shim code, anything
can be used from Python. This facility and interpretive execution (as Eric
John
On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 10:27:35 PM UTC-8, pentel...@gmail.com wrote:
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>
> IMHO, golang didn't make a dent on key areas to become a language of
> choice like big data (analytics, complex event processing, etc.) and
> consequently, hot topics like artificial intelligence. Exactly areas wh
IMHO, golang didn't make a dent on key areas to become a language of choice
like big data (analytics, complex event processing, etc.) and consequently, hot
topics like artificial intelligence. Exactly areas where python excels today.
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Dnia 2020-01-26, o godz. 14:51:00
Liam napisał(a):
> Google Trends is commonly used to discern public interest in topics,
No, in the IT industry GT service is used to the exact opposite.
An "interest" in a programming language (or in tech) expressed as a search
about it is a viable indicator o
Maybe Go is too stable and boring.
Perhaps we should add wacky new features in each release, remove old
features,
and change the way everything else works in surprising and undocumented
ways.
This way all our users will be forced to google like crazy to figure out
how to port
their code to the
Google Trends is commonly used to discern public interest in topics,
especially emerging ones. That's not equivalent to usage, but note my
title: "Go mindshare is..."
For example, I've seen this chart of Python, Ruby, and Node.js posted
elsewhere. It seems to reflect interest accurately.
https:
I've always considered Google Trends to be a dubious source of *actual*
trending and usage. Maybe I'm missing something but isn't it just based on
searches, not usage.
Go is absolutely fine because it is a far better approach than Python for most
things and people are realizing it, they might n
Dnia 2020-01-16, o godz. 03:12:49
JuciÊ Andrade napisał(a):
> Liam has a point. Go is not attracting attention as it used to do. Go
> ceased to generate news.
Google Trends are based on searched terms, not on an analysis of some
mainstream media headlines. My interpretation of OP linked "flat"
Porsche’s sales are a tiny fraction of auto sales, but most in the industry
consider it to be the best platform - and only wish they could emulate / afford
to be in that conversation.
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Liam wrote:
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>
> Open source is a rapidly growing movement across virtually
Open source is a rapidly growing movement across virtually all languages,
but still a small minority of all software. So the Trends graph is more
revealing than Github activity. Assembly language use on Github also
increased by ~150%
There's no question that Go use is growing rather quickly. It
https://www.benfrederickson.com/ranking-programming-languages-by-github-users/
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I'll be interested to see how this trend goes when they FINALLY pull the plug
on Python 2.7 and everyone who's been kicking the can down the road for the
better part of a decade finally has to figure out which third-party libraries
are breaking.
Python is better for some things, Go better for o
Well said.
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Michael Jones wrote:
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>
> How global mindshare develops is something that I know quite a bit about
> through leadership and engineering experience in multiple billion user
> projects.
>
> One key lesson for me was that you reach a point where the
How global mindshare develops is something that I know quite a bit about
through leadership and engineering experience in multiple billion user
projects.
One key lesson for me was that you reach a point where the audience you
originally wanted to serve (or refocused to serve) has been served. That
Go was originally conceived as a niche language. And if it does what we
need, then I don't think
we need to be particularly bothered if other languages are more "popular".
But when looking at language popularity, I am not sure that the number of
google searches is the most meaningful metric.
L
If the purpose of adding "killer features" is just to make Go more popular then
I'm completely against it. That doesn't seem like a sustainable way of growing
and retaining a community, who may just move onto the next killer feature in
another language. I'm not even sure that explicitly growing
That could affect the level of a term, but wouldn't impact its trend much.
Trends are the important insight of this graph.
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 2:58:31 PM UTC-8, Robert Engels wrote:
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>
> Please look deeper into how these "trends" are calculated.
>
> For example, if everyone that us
Please look deeper into how these "trends" are calculated.For example, if everyone that uses product Y can't figure out how feature X works, and they search for it. Product Y will be showing growth...-Original Message-
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If you look at python’s trajectory it took a while for it to become
mainstream. I suppose Go’s curve will be somewhat similar.
This is a very interesting talk on usage trends among
programming languages:
https://youtu.be/QyJZzq0v7Z4
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 22:18 Liam wrote:
> My point is that Go
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