Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread l0f4r0--- via Gnupg-users
Hi, 1 avr. 2021, 18:19 de gnupg-users@gnupg.org: > Why stop? > You're right. Today is the good day to break habits, think out of the box and do things differently! ;) Best regards, l0f4r0 ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lis

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Andrew Gallagher via Gnupg-users
On 01/04/2021 15:39, Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users wrote: Another option would be direct FAX/GnuPG usage, with a different armor, which is OCR friendly. From a purely practical point of view, why would anyone in the modern world use a system where a digital message is rendered in OCR-able fo

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users
Johan Wevers wrote: Sorry for not quoting your message! Let's say it this way, Bernhard likes to promote email usage for GnuPG, or why should we here on this Mailing List value email usage (with a MUA)? I showed a couple of examples to make it for the surveillance industry a bit harder to col

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users
Andrew Gallagher wrote: On 01/04/2021 15:39, Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users wrote: Another option would be direct FAX/GnuPG usage, with a different armor, which is OCR friendly. From a purely practical point of view, why would anyone in the modern world use a system where a digital message i

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Johan Wevers
On 01-04-2021 17:54, Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users wrote: > Fax is faster than email and arrives, while email delivery to a > recipient can not On;y if the recipient has a landline that can always pickup the fax call. A more and more uncommon situation. I don't have a landline anymore, no use fo

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users
Johan Wevers wrote: On 31-03-2021 22:28, Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users wrote: Hopefully the Industry will take a look at affordable hardware based encrypted Fax comms for Fax? To get the information on paper? In 2021? Why? Fax is faster than email and arrives, while email delivery to a re

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Johan Wevers
On 31-03-2021 22:28, Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users wrote: > Hopefully the Industry will take a look at affordable hardware based > encrypted Fax comms for Fax? To get the information on paper? In 2021? Why? > Hardware based AES/DH crypto phones (no smartphones) would be a welcome > addition too

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users
Bernhard Reiter wrote: Am Mittwoch 31 März 2021 22:28:45 schrieb Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users: The more I think about GnuPG with email MUA usage I strongly believe that the Industry has better options than email, especially when it comes to decentralised and confidential communications. And

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-04-01 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Mittwoch 31 März 2021 22:28:45 schrieb Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users: > The more I think about GnuPG with email MUA usage I strongly believe > that the Industry has better options than email, especially when it comes > to decentralised and confidential communications. And what options would th

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-31 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users
Bernhard Reiter wrote: Am Mittwoch 24 März 2021 16:15:16 schrieb Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users: Bernhard Reiter wrote: What I observe is that knowledge and practive of email usage is declining. I notice it in many little things This is quite normal, because millions of people nowadays are u

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-29 Thread Ralph Seichter via Gnupg-users
* Bernhard Reiter: > Just wondering if there is a standard for sharing email drafts ... https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6154 defines optional attributes for "special-use" mailboxes. That applies to IMAP only, of course, but it may be sufficient, depending on a user's client/server combination. -R

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-29 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Donnerstag 25 März 2021 12:34:15 schrieb Klaus Ethgen: > if you start editing a mail with thunderbird and put it to > drafts. Then finishing the edit with mutt. Just wondering if there is a standard for sharing email drafts ... Anyhow implementing the wrapped message method of protected header

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-25 Thread john doe via Gnupg-users
On 3/25/2021 12:34 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Hi, Am Do den 25. Mär 2021 um 11:51 schrieb Bernhard Reiter: To me the protected headers implementation Thunderbird is a step back, as it leads to unnecessary data leaks (subject and cc) to other clients with are OpenPGP/MIME compatible. Well, there

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi, Am Do den 25. Mär 2021 um 11:51 schrieb Bernhard Reiter: > To me the protected headers implementation Thunderbird is a step back, > as it leads to unnecessary data leaks (subject and cc) to other clients > with are OpenPGP/MIME compatible. Well, there is other.. For example, if you start edi

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-25 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi Klaus, Am Donnerstag 25 März 2021 10:25:22 schrieb Klaus Ethgen: > But there is > even a solution for Web-based mail clients. Mailvelope does a pretty > good job. Although there are some stuff to know about: > - Mailvelope can (obviously) only handle inline PGP mails. Decoding mime > mails (o

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi List, Am Mi den 24. Mär 2021 um 16:15 schrieb Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users: > Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > > What I observe is that knowledge and practive of email usage > > is declining. I notice it in many little things (like folks sending > > alternative HTML mails, not being able to handle

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-25 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Mittwoch 24 März 2021 16:15:16 schrieb Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users: > Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > What I observe is that knowledge and practive of email usage > > is declining. I notice it in many little things > This is quite normal, because millions of people nowadays are using > modern

Re: We shall value email usage

2021-03-24 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users
Bernhard Reiter wrote: What I observe is that knowledge and practive of email usage is declining. I notice it in many little things (like folks sending alternative HTML mails, not being able to handle CC, good inline quoting, good subjects). So where are good explanations about email practice?

We shall value email usage

2021-03-23 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Dear GnuPG community, email is a decentral standard for asynchronus communication * one-to-one messenging * closed groups * public discussions (via mailinglists) * trust anchor (as needed by many accounts on web-sites) There is a wealth of Free Software implementations and service providers,