Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Phil Susi
On 3/16/2018 9:16 AM, Steven Maddox wrote: > I get the impression they want the decryption happening on the end users > machines. > > Presumably so that if any users got the idea to just 'upload' a file > online - it'd be the encrypted version of that file.  Course someone can > just get around th

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Phil Susi
On 3/16/2018 9:15 AM, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > How does that work when the decryption key is on the client? I don't think it is on the client. The private key is stored on the server and is decrypted when you log in. At least I think that's how it works. I've never actually tried using EFS on

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Steven Maddox
I get the impression they want the decryption happening on the end users machines. Presumably so that if any users got the idea to just 'upload' a file online - it'd be the encrypted version of that file.  Course someone can just get around that by opening an encrypted file - then just saving it t

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Andrew Gallagher
> On 16 Mar 2018, at 13:07, Phil Susi wrote: > > I believe you can enable EFS on the windows server and it will handle > decrypting the file before sending it over SMB. Then you don't need any > special software or configuration on the clients. How does that work when the decryption key is on

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Phil Susi
On 3/16/2018 4:11 AM, Steven Maddox wrote: > Yeah I just use LUKS on my PC to protect local files, but this is (as > above) for files on SMB/Windows shares... sorry for not mentioning that > sooner. I believe you can enable EFS on the windows server and it will handle decrypting the file before se

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Andrew Gallagher
> On 16 Mar 2018, at 08:11, Steven Maddox wrote: > > Yeah this would be a cool approach that'd mean less reliance on the > kernel. However the files we (me and my colleagues) access (although > they're all using Windows PCs) are on SMB/Windows shares... so somehow > the overlay would have to wo

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-16 Thread Steven Maddox
On 15/03/18 17:03, Phil Susi wrote: > Windows has this feature built in already, why not just use that? I'm not a Windows user, I mentioned that I'm a Linux desktop user in my original post. -- On 15/03/18 17:11, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > The obvious approach would be to write a FUSE driver Yea

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 03/15/2018 07:58 PM, gn...@raf.org wrote: > yes, luks full disk encryption would be best of course but if > boss says no, ecryptfs file system encryption might be > acceptable. every file in an ecryptfs-mounted file system is > individually encrypted. encrypting their names as well is > optional

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2018-03-16 11:58:45 +1100, gn...@raf.org wrote: > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> or, if what you really care about is file-level encryption on a >> GNU/Linux desktop and you *don't* care about files being OpenPGP >> formatted, you could look into ext4's native encryption features (see >> e4cr

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread gnupg
Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On Thu 2018-03-15 17:11:15 +, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > >> If this doesn't exist in the main GnuPG project then I'd be happy to be > >> referred to any 3rd party bits of software (even if commercial or > >> proprietary) that could? > >> > >> I understand if

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2018-03-15 17:11:15 +, Andrew Gallagher wrote: >> If this doesn't exist in the main GnuPG project then I'd be happy to be >> referred to any 3rd party bits of software (even if commercial or >> proprietary) that could? >> >> I understand if the answer *should* be block-level e

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 15/03/18 15:26, Steven Maddox wrote: > > The desktop portion of that software has an OS/kernel level driver that > watches if you're trying to open a PGP encrypted file... then decrypts > it on the fly and finally passes it to the application that'd normally > open it. ... > If this doe

Re: Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread Phil Susi
On 3/15/2018 11:26 AM, Steven Maddox wrote: > The desktop portion of that software has an OS/kernel level driver that > watches if you're trying to open a PGP encrypted file... then decrypts > it on the fly and finally passes it to the application that'd normally > open it. > Anyway I can ei

Stupid Symantec

2018-03-15 Thread Steven Maddox
Hi, At the place I work they unfortunately use stupid Symantec's "Encryption Desktop" (formerly known as PGP Desktop) software. The desktop portion of that software has an OS/kernel level driver that watches if you're trying to open a PGP encrypted file... then decrypts