Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen
He’s mainly explaining how do you fight spam in a centralized way, and then explain how all the centralized techiques are unusable when using crypto. That’s normal, crypto and decentralization comes together. You need to think according other paradigms. And the point I'm making is this: this set

Re: Error message "Ohhhh jeeee: ... this is a bug"

2014-11-19 Thread Hugo Hinterberger
Hi, this should go to: "MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net>", sorry if it goes on the list "gmane.comp.encryption.gpg.user" too (minor user/MUA f-), although this might be interesting to Werner Koch also. I just tried to verify your message, but failed at importing your key. GPG

Dotfile encryption with GPG

2014-11-19 Thread Brandur
Hi gnupg-users, One of the GPG use cases that I'm most interested in is the encryption of some dotfiles which normally reside in my home directory in cleartext, but which contain sensitive credentials. An example of such a file is be `~/.netrc`, a somewhat standardized file that stores web creden

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread MichaelQuigley
"Gnupg-users" wrote on 11/19/2014 02:30:40 PM: > - Message from "Robert J. Hansen" on Wed, > 19 Nov 2014 12:08:42 -0500 - > > To: > > Nan , gnupg-users@gnupg.org > > Subject: > > Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless? > . . . . .

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Garreau, Alexandre
On 2014-11-19 at 18:17, Robert J. Hansen wrote: N>> I agree with several other important points you raise, but this one is not a big >> deal. I have a highly customized mail setup. My SpamAssassin downloads rules >> from the internet, but trains its Bayesian filter on only the e-mail I >> personal

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen
I agree with several other important points you raise, but this one is not a big deal. I have a highly customized mail setup. My SpamAssassin downloads rules from the internet, but trains its Bayesian filter on only the e-mail I personally receive. I don't mean to sound like I'm dismissing your

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen
First, "charlatan" and "snake oil" imply deceit. From Google: "A product, policy, etc. of little real worth or value that is promoted as the solution to a problem." So let me say it clearly: your product is of little real worth or value. It's snake oil. It doesn't appear to bring anything to t

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Nan
On 19 Nov 2014 12:28:04 Peter Lebbing wrote: > looks like lighting the fuse *Not* my intent. Just acknowledging that I understand it's important to you, Robert. Feel free to ignore the paragraph. If there's a blast, we'll all survive :) Nan GoodCrypto warning: Anyone could have read this me

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Garreau, Alexandre
Le 19/11/2014 à 12h17, Peter Lebbing a écrit : > On 19/11/14 01:31, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> No. Client-side, you get to inspect (fully) only your data, and you >> have to develop a statistical model of spam based on only your data. >> When Gmail filters, it inspects (fully) traffic to *millions

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 19/11/14 09:54, Nan wrote: > First, "charlatan" and "snake oil" imply deceit. They often do, don't they? I doubt that is what is meant, though. If I look in the Oxford online dictionary: Definition of charlatan in English: noun A person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill De

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 19/11/14 01:31, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > No. Client-side, you get to inspect (fully) only your data, and you > have to develop a statistical model of spam based on only your data. > When Gmail filters, it inspects (fully) traffic to *millions* of users, > and uses that to create a model no ind

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-19 Thread Nan
Robert, let's try to defuse this. To quote Werner, Salam-Shalom. First, "charlatan" and "snake oil" imply deceit. Goodcrypto: * Is open source * Uses GPG for mail encryption * Links to "The limits of GoodCrypto" right on the front page * Has asked for audits from many people, including: