Re: [GNC] The two modules

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
John, Just to clarify. While I have accounting qualifications, I am not a practising accountant and my judgement is primarily an opinion based on my formal studies and my accounting experience in a small business in my particular country. We all need to keep in mind that accounting, while adhering

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
John, I agree with you that making the accounts with child accounts have no transactions is being unnecessarily restrictive and may not meet all possible use cases but perhaps having the option of being able to restrict it to that case if it suits an individual's purpose is a suitable compromise.

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
Hi Stephen, I agree with your wife about not including the Income Statement inside a Balance Sheet. These serve different functions and it just makes a Balance Sheet more complicated than necessary. From an accounting perspective you should be able to evaluate a balance sheet fairly quickly and ha

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.2 Released

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
Stephen, It is generally a good idea to remove the previous version before installing a new one. Gnucash will generally overwrite any existing files of the same name, but you may be left with unnecessary files in some cases. Going from 3.1 to 3.2 should be OK as there are unlikey to be major chang

Re: [GNC] Upgrading GC under Ubuntu

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
John, The GnuCash wiki Installation instructions now link to the build instructions for Ubuntu (and derivative distrubutions like Linux Mint) https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building which in turn has a link specifically for building V3 on on Ubuntu16.04, 18.04 and derivatives which now hopefully sh

Re: [GNC] Dark theme on Windows

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
Geert, I tried this on Linux Mint 18.3 but had no changes from the default theme. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To upda

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.2 Released

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
Hi John, If GnuCash is not built with Ninja, there is a cmake_uninstall.cmake file in the top level of the build directory which seems to read the install_manifest.txt file. The Makefile in the same level produced by CMake has an uninstall target - not sure how it executes the commands in the cmak

Re: [GNC] Rethinking the placeholder account concept (was: Re: Fwd: The two modules)

2018-06-30 Thread DaveC49
Stephen John, Geert In accounting terms there are really only 3 basic account types: Asset Liability Equity These all *must *satisfy the basic accounting equation Assets=Liabilities +Equity. The two sides of this equation are what the German /European system defines as Activa and Passiv

Re: [GNC] Dark theme on Windows

2018-07-02 Thread DaveC49
Geert, The default theme is Mint-X. There is a Mint-X Dark GTK-3 theme available as well and GnuCash comes up nicely in it. It is installable from the Menu->Preferences->Themes dialog in the Cinnamon desktop. I would say on Mint all you have to do is select a dark theme at the system level. There

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.2 Released

2018-07-02 Thread DaveC49
John, I'm using CMake v 3.5.1. Presumably the same or similar could be used to create an uninstall target for Ninja. Their argument for providing a default uninstall target seems a bit weak to me as you are not going to be issuing the command in a build directory unless you really intend to uninst

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.2 Released

2018-07-02 Thread DaveC49
John, Just some further information. I rebuilt GnuCash with the -G Ninja option. The build.ninja seems to contain a build uninstall target but it has no commands. If I run sudo ninja install it installs GnuCash (in/usr/local the prefix I set with cmake) and creates install_manifest.txt. If i co

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.2 Released

2018-07-04 Thread DaveC49
Geert, I had realised the same thing about needing to uninstall before building and shifted the section on uninstalling to before the section on Building on the Wiki page and specifically mentioned using the previous version's build directory. I might make the note clearer about retaining the buil

Re: [GNC] Uninstalling previous versions

2018-07-04 Thread DaveC49
Stan, The previous discussion on uninstalling related to Linux (the Ubuntu distribution in particular) where users have built GnuCash from the source code. On Linux, if you use the particular Linux distribution's (Ubuntu, Debian, Redhat, Centos etc.) supported version of Gnucash, it normally has

Re: [GNC] Upgrading GC under Ubuntu

2018-07-04 Thread DaveC49
Stephen, Colin I think there is a problem with the cmake creation of the scripts that do the install, that is not installing the icons correctly. I just did an uninstall of v3.2 on Ubuntu, deleted any gnucash files left in my install location (/usr/local) relating to gnucash so that all directorie

Re: [GNC] Upgrading GC under Ubuntu

2018-07-04 Thread DaveC49
Stephen, Colin Just a correction to my last post. There is no problem with the icon installation on Linux Mint 18.3. It seems to possibly be a problem with Nemo (Linux Mint file explorer) rather than the installation. All of the icon files are actually there but there is something with the permis

Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu

2018-07-06 Thread DaveC49
Hi Colin, I'm responsible for m,ost of the update on the build Ubuntu. No problem for me with a more generic page name at all. I had stuck with the names that were there as I updated it with the more recent build instructions. I have tried to generalise the page and make it a bit more user orient

[GNC] Flatpack GnuCash v3.2 available in Linux Mint and flathub website

2018-07-06 Thread DaveC49
Gnucash V3.2 is available in the Software Manager in Linux Mint 18.3 downloading from the flatpack form from the flathub website(https://flathub.org/apps/search/GnuCash). Installs OK and indistinguisable from my own build on my system. Can be downloaded from the flathub site directly if you're not

Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu

2018-07-09 Thread DaveC49
Colin, A correction. The latest LM 18.3 Software Manager now installs Gnucash 3.2 as a flatpack in /usr/bin. There are no identiable gnucash directories apart from the user configuration. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html _

Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu

2018-07-11 Thread DaveC49
Hi Colin, Sorry for the confusion. I had gone back to check where LM installed from its software manager to check that it was into /usr/local and discovered it was now using flatpack and didn't install in any manner I was previously accustomed to. I appreciate that apt installs to /usr but my memo

Re: [GNC] Flatpack GnuCash v3.2 available in Linux Mint and flathub website

2018-07-11 Thread DaveC49
Colin, There is a link labelled issues to the Gnome bugzilla site on the flathub GnuCash page which links to the now becoming defunct Gnome Bugzilla which is being transferred to Gnome Gitlab and has a link to it, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME . I could not find any reporting of issues with flat

Re: [GNC] How to move my Windows 10 2.6.17 to a new Windows 10 machine?

2018-07-11 Thread DaveC49
Dick, All that is necessary is to copy the .gnucash file from that directory to the new computer (usb stick is probably easiest) where is the name you originally gave your Gnucash file. This is the only file that it is necessary to copy to transfer to your new machine You will find a lot of files

Re: [GNC] How to move my Windows 10 2.6.17 to a new Windows 10 machine?

2018-07-12 Thread DaveC49
Thanks Liz, I didn't think of the preferences. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or

Re: [GNC] Imbalance bug in credit note generation?

2018-07-20 Thread DaveC49
Hi Amish' I can also confirm that the credit note has a bug for GnuCash 3.2 running on Linux Mint 19 from the flat pack. I have created an Invoice for $100 for a dummy company in a test file and then a credit note for the same dummy company for $50. I have not used a tax table. After the two tran

Re: [GNC] balance sheet and account equation for Business Accounts

2018-07-22 Thread DaveC49
As well as the internal funds transfer from Euro to USD in your Asset:bank account are you also converting the corresponding income account in Euro to an Income account in USD at the same exchange rate? If not this is a possible spurce of any imbalance in the accounting equation. David Cousens

Re: [GNC] Missing menus

2018-07-25 Thread DaveC49
Joe, I've been using GnuCash on Linux Mint for approx 5 years with no problems. The Software manager version is sometimes a little behind the current GnuCash version but at present it has a flatpak GnuCash V3.2 available that worked fine under LM18.3 and is working fine on LM19. I'm currently run

Re: [GNC] opening my accounts after I have saved them

2018-07-25 Thread DaveC49
Johnnie Use File ->Open from the menu and navigate to the location where you saved the file. Hopefully you did not save the file to a read only CD. You should have received a warning that the device could not be written to if you had attempted to do that. Open the file .gnucash where filename is t

Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

2018-07-26 Thread DaveC49
Adrien, The main function of the trial balance is to ensure the accounts are numerically correct before any adjustments to the accounts are made before producing the final financial statements. It should be just a straight listing of the balance (credit or debit) of all accounts in the chart of ac

Re: [GNC] Bug in design of commodity sell transactions? (was Re: Getting My Account To Trial Balance)

2018-07-27 Thread DaveC49
Adrien, >From what little I know of the automatic gains/loss calculations by default the gain or loss on a transaction is created in an Orphan-Gains-CCC account by default and the user has to reassign the gain or loss to an appropriate income account. See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnuca

Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

2018-07-27 Thread DaveC49
Adrien, David, The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based. Nemo (file explorer) can see the mounted USB stick and access it directly or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point whe

Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)

2018-07-27 Thread DaveC49
Adrien, I do use Nabble and also get the user list posts by email but as I am in Australia I sometiimes notice there is a long delay associated with being in this timezone. I'm not sure where the moderators are located but, I tend to post usually in the morning AEST (UTC -10:00) and my posts don't

Re: [GNC] Payroll add-on, module, software?

2018-07-27 Thread DaveC49
John I had considered writing a payroll plugin a few years ago but found that finding my way around the Gnucash code made it difficult so I have great respect for the business features that Derek has created so far. I started to think more in terms of a separate payroll program which maintained it

Re: Mutual fund giving wrong asset value

2017-05-15 Thread DaveC49
Roger, The most obvious thing to look for would be a missing decimal point in the price. That it has calculated correctly for other transactions indicates an input error. David -- View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/Mutual-fund-giving-wrong-asset-value-tp4691642p

Re: When does GnuCash create .log files?

2017-05-16 Thread DaveC49
To be useful the logfiles should be being written as each transaction is recorded rather than only at the end of a session. In the latter case if a crash/programming fault causes Gnucash to exit abnormally the log file would contain no useful information. Autosave should only be working on the main

Re: How to close a financial year

2017-05-22 Thread DaveC49
Anita The Wiki has a secion discussing it at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Closing_Books and the documentation tells you how to use the built in routine for it at https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/tool-close-book.html David Cousens -- View this message in context: http://gn

Re: How to close a financial year

2017-05-27 Thread DaveC49
Don, I think most of your points have been covered by subsequent posts from other users. I think the confusion largely arises from historical accounting practice where each period had a physical journal and each account had its own physical ledger book and entries were hand made in ink (We won't

Re: Issues with Importing Invoices

2017-05-28 Thread DaveC49
Hi Buster, Customer jobs are not meant to be the same as Vendor jobs at least according to the Gnucash Help manual entries which seem to indicate that they are separate https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-jobs1.html and https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/busnss-

Re: (no subject)

2017-05-31 Thread DaveC49
Hi Eneko, The full accounting equation is Assets = Liabilities +Equity+(Income -Expenses) where Income and Expense accounts are temporary Equity accounts which record the changes in equity during the current accounting period (usually a financial year). You can rewrite this as Equity = Assets - L

Re: linking internet banking in Australia

2017-06-03 Thread DaveC49
Hi Ananda, I have also been trying to connect to banks in Australia (CBA) but have had no luck. Some years ago I received an email confirming that they had not adopted/implemented the European online banking connection process (HBCI). More recently emails to my bank asking about this have been to

Re: linking internet banking in Australia

2017-06-03 Thread DaveC49
Ananda, The last post in this archive from Whirlpool forums mentions having created a PHP script to download OFX files . I doubt he was using the HBCI interface but was simply using the standard Netbank interface and supplying the data needed to get the banks website to download the OFX files. ht

Re: Gnucash file is getting long!

2017-06-14 Thread DaveC49
John, The simplest method would be to create a new file at the end of an accounting period, export the chart of accounts and then reset the opening balances to the closing balances in your old file. You would need to perform any adjustments to the accounts depending on whether your accounting is

Re: Where to record business equity in your personal books

2017-06-18 Thread DaveC49
Hi Adrein, I agree you would record the investment in a company as an asset. I don't know about elsewhere in the world but when you start a sole owner private company in Australia, you essentially become the only shareholder and the value of the share is the paid up capital of the company and has

Re: Where to record business equity in your personal books

2017-06-19 Thread DaveC49
Hi Adrein, I apologise if my comment appeared a bit flippant. The intention of my comment about choosing any name was really that the actual name is less important than the structural aspect of it being an asset account. The general expectation would be that an investment in a business would hopef

Re: Open Item Management?

2017-06-22 Thread DaveC49
Hi Milan, Have you looked at the Payables Ageing report and the Receivables Ageing Report? You can click on the customer/Vendor to identify the company involved and the amount to bring up a summary of the invoice involved. The A/R and A/P accounts are really only meant to be used with the busines

Re: how to balance a loan to a director against expenses made by him?

2017-07-10 Thread DaveC49
Hi, The most direct transaction to record this is: Debit Credit Liability:DirectorsBusiness Expenses Asset:LoansToDirector . The most important thing is to ann

Re: Using multiple accounts in single file

2017-07-13 Thread DaveC49
Hi Matt, I have recently moved from having separate files ( at a time when my wife had a business and our tax affairs were more complicated ) to now using a single file (we are both retired and our tax affairs are now relatively simple). I still need to keep track of somethings separately for tax

Double Entry History

2017-07-16 Thread DaveC49
This is a bit off topic but for anyone with a historical interest in accounting "Double Entry" by Jane Gleeson-White (Allen & Unwin 2011) is an interesting read. David Cousens - David Cousens -- View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/Double-Entry-History-tp46927

Re: Double Entry History

2017-07-17 Thread DaveC49
Hi Michael, This one takes accounting back to 7000BC and traces the major historical developments from there forward to the GFC in 2010. It would appear that writing may have developed from ancient accountants methods of keeping counts of goods traded. The first cheques were written by Arab trader

Re: shared expenses/IOU accounting

2017-07-24 Thread DaveC49
Hi, Gnucash is certainly capable of doing what you require. I use it to manage separate accounts for my wife and myself and a joint accounst and separate debit and credit cards. The first thing is to have you asset and liability accounts match your actual bank accounts and ownership of them. You c

Re: shared expenses/IOU accounting

2017-07-25 Thread DaveC49
Hi To my knowledge Gnucash does not have the ability to generate splits between accounts for sharing expenses automatically. When you enter a transaction it is usually in the register for the account you are drawing from. A default account for the other split of the transaction is generally sugges

Re: Cash Method and write off's

2017-07-29 Thread DaveC49
Hi Martijn, Gnucash is capable of supporting both cash and accrual accounting. The business features (accounts receivable and accounts payable) are explicitly accrual accounting based however as they record the income at the time the invoice is created normally on the date the service is rendered

Re: company invoices from director - Accounts Payable

2017-07-30 Thread DaveC49
Hi Marc, Don has answered your first question fairly completely. Whether you treat payments you have made on behalf of the company as a loan or a contribution to equity really depends on your intention to pay back the amounts and the timescale on which you intend to do it. If it ASAP (e.g. you a

Re: Methods to Track Gift Cards and Similar Items

2017-07-31 Thread DaveC49
The gift card is clearly an asset. When you receive it it is income. In most jurisdictions one would expect gift income to be not taxable however this may not always be the case. I generally have income streams that are both taxable and non-taxable so I already have placeholder subaccounts of Inco

Re: gnucash can't find tutorial & concepts guide

2017-07-31 Thread DaveC49
Hi Morris, On Linux Mint 18.2 the help files are located in /usr/share/docs/gnucash-docs. The display of the tutorial guide and manual by Gnucash uses the gnome Yelp help browser. It may be this is not installed in the raspberryPi Linux version. http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs-museum/sna

Re: Interest / late penalties on invoices

2017-08-04 Thread DaveC49
Macho, >From an accounting perspective, the interest charge is not incurred until the original invoice is overdue past the agreed date and should be recorded as such at that time, while the original sale is recorded at the date at which it occurred. On this basis, I think it would be most appropr

Re: Chart of Accounts cannot be uploaded to Android

2017-08-28 Thread DaveC49
Hi Colin and John_Mike, "Gnucash has no relationship with Nabble". This is not quite correct. As well as replying to the mailing list emails from gnucash direct to your email, the posts by email are also displayed in a Nabble version of the Forum at http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-Us

Re: Chart of Accounts cannot be uploaded to Android

2017-08-28 Thread DaveC49
Hi Colin and John_Mike, I also just imported the Coa from Dropbox. Just save the coA to Dropbox Again same procedure on Android 3 bars->Settings-> AccountPreferences->Import GnuCash XML When the OPEN FROM menu comes up select the DropBox and then the file. David Cousens - David Cousens --

Re: Chart of Accounts cannot be uploaded to Android

2017-08-28 Thread DaveC49
This thread gives some info on syncing data. https://gnucash.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1120894-how-to-sync-data-from-gnucash-android-to-desktop David Cousens - David Cousens -- View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/Chart-of-Accounts-cannot-be-uplo

Re: On Nabble (was Re: Chart of Accounts cannot be uploaded to Android)

2017-08-28 Thread DaveC49
Hi Derek, Thanks for the clarification re Nabble. I am very grateful to Nabble for taking the mailing list on as I find it much easier to follow threads on Nabble. My reference to "relationship" was really only about the ability to access the mailing list from Nabble and not with respect to its o

Re: Chart of Accounts cannot be uploaded to Android

2017-08-28 Thread DaveC49
Greg, Mike, I have no problem accessing the gnucash export files in Dropbox from my Android phone as I indicated in an earlier post. Dropbox has a daemon which you have to download and install on Linux to sync with the server. There is usually a version available via the Software manager on Linu

Re: Issuing a refund: how to record it and have it show up in the Customer Report

2017-08-30 Thread DaveC49
Robert, Would the Credit Note facility not suit to record what essentially becomes a reversal of part of an Invoice which would be included in the Customer report? The discussion of the implementation is not all that clear in the manual (https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-i

Re: Newbie question .

2017-09-03 Thread DaveC49
Hi George, How you record these items will depend a great deal on the exact nature of the item and the nature of the future benefit you receive from them. In the case of a pension the future value may be different from simply the paid in value of the contributions. Depending on the nature of the

Re: Tracking money moving out of checkbook

2017-09-11 Thread DaveC49
Dennis, Doesn't a transaction report run on your checkbook account do that. You can run it unfiltered or only select the transactions that go to another specified account? David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html __

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