Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-04-01 Thread Liz Dodd
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 23:22:06 -0400 Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: > Doesn't everyone track their sales tax as a separate expense item? > Why would you consider sales tax the same type of an expenditure as > groceries, gasoline or your electric bill? As others have said, there are differe

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
The tax part I've already covered. But I record the tips separately too. I've used this to great effect to refine my budgeting for dining dollars. Some may think it is overkill, but it helped me get it under control. It worked for me, but others may not need it. Exactly. I have been able

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
So many are responding to this "accounting for sales tax" question as if it were unreasonable to want to know what was spent on sales tax. a) The taxes imposed are part of the expense of whatever. TRUE, and that is how I would do it regardless of needing to know what was sales tax. b) BUT ---

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Derek Atkins
HI, On Tue, March 30, 2021 11:22 pm, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: > I do know the difference between credit and a debt. Just for the record, many people (myself included) learned it backwards, because we learned it from the bank statements we received. But those statements use the terms

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 3/30/21 8:22 PM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: I do know the difference between credit and a debt. Doesn't everyone track their sales tax as a separate expense item? Why would you consider sales tax the same type of an expenditure as groceries, gasoline or your electric bill? Nope

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Adrien Monteleone
On 3/31/21 11:33 AM, Stan Brown wrote: On 2021-03-30 20:22, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: Doesn't everyone track their sales tax as a separate expense item? Why would you consider sales tax the same type of an expenditure as groceries, gasoline or your electric bill? I record it sepa

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yep, same here. My brother asked me once how I handled aggregating sales taxes when I have a large complicated receipt spanning multiple expense categories. I just laughed and said, "I don't. I record the tax to its own account." I think I saved him lots of headache and time! Regards, Adrien

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I track it every time it's broken out on the receipt. The sales tax is the cost of Government not the cost of the item purchased. To each his own. On 3/31/21 12:33 PM, Stan Brown wrote: On 2021-03-30 20:22, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: Doesn't everyone track their sales tax as a separ

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Stan Brown
On 2021-03-30 20:22, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: > Doesn't everyone track their sales tax as a separate expense item? Why > would you consider sales tax the same type of an expenditure as > groceries, gasoline or your electric bill? As far as I'm concerned, taxes are part of the purchase

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-31 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
I buy a pair of socks for $5 and a hammer for $10 and sales tax of $0.24 for a total $15.24. There's a split transaction that comprises of three items: Socks  $5.00  makes an enter into the clothing account <- that's what I call split 1 Hammer $10.00 makes an entry into the tools account

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I do know the difference between credit and a debt. Doesn't everyone track their sales tax as a separate expense item? Why would you consider sales tax the same type of an expenditure as groceries, gasoline or your electric bill? When I say a split 1 and split 2 I'm referring to  each separat

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
Yes it's set to single line. When I switched to Transaction Journal it just opened all the split transactions instead of me opening them individually with the SPLIT button up in the tool bar. I have just been hitting the SPLIT butt up in the tool bar when I wanted to enter a split transaction.

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
I'm going to break into bits as there are several things here What's confusing me is that I was not forgetting to add any transactions in the split. GNUCash kept doubling the amount of the total and subtracting all my split transactions from that doubled total it invented and adding the diffe

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread David Carlson
Jack, If you happen to have the register display set to single line instead of double line or worse, set to basic ledger, you can find yourself getting lost just trying to make "missing" split lines appear. I recommend setting the register view to Auto-split ledger or transaction journal and chec

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
At first I was doing that. On 3/30/21 4:37 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: I bet you hit the enter key... That causes the transaction to commit. You should use the arrow keys or tab keys to move around the multi-split transaction until you're done. -derek On Tue, March 30, 2021 4:06 pm, Jack Frillma

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
Thanks for the advice. What's confusing me is that I was not forgetting to add any transactions in the split. GNUCash kept doubling the amount of the total and subtracting all my split transactions from that doubled total it invented and adding the difference to the Unbalanced-USD. I eventuall

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 3/30/2021 4:06 PM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: I tried adding the minus sign and I still got the Unbalanced-USD thing but that doesn't I was doing it correctly. Entering these split transactions had been the biggest issue I have encountered switching to GNUCash. Amounts ending u

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Derek Atkins
I bet you hit the enter key... That causes the transaction to commit. You should use the arrow keys or tab keys to move around the multi-split transaction until you're done. -derek On Tue, March 30, 2021 4:06 pm, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: > I tried adding the minus sign and I still g

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I tried adding the minus sign and I still got the Unbalanced-USD thing but that doesn't I was doing it correctly. Entering these split transactions had been the biggest issue I have encountered switching to GNUCash. On 3/30/21 3:37 PM, Maf. King wrote: Purchased in error, rather than data-entr

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Maf. King
Purchased in error, rather than data-entry error. ;-) I will note another possible way to flip the columns - just put a - sign in before the value, then on tabbing-out of the column it will flip to the other side (and lose the minus sign!). Maf. On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:16:17 BST Jack Fri

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
In the world I worked in before retiring there can be different kinds of errors and they are often handled differently. That may not apply in accounting but it's my old habits and instincts kicking in. So, I don't consider a refund an error but a kind normal transaction.  An error has a comple

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread David Carlson
Is one kind of error different from others? On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:08 PM Jack Frillman via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > I never considered that option since the GNUCash documentation describes > it for correcting errors. > > On 3/30/21 12:49 PM, Robin Chattopadhyay wrote:

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I never considered that option since the GNUCash documentation describes it for correcting errors. On 3/30/21 12:49 PM, Robin Chattopadhyay wrote: There’s another, even easier IMO, option to select the Reverse Transaction option. That will duplicate the transaction and flip the amounts at the s

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Robin Chattopadhyay
There’s another, even easier IMO, option to select the Reverse Transaction option. That will duplicate the transaction and flip the amounts at the same time. Robin On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cam Ellison wrote: > On 2021-03-30 8:43 a.m., Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: > > > > I'm tr

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Cam Ellison
You should be replying to the list - this went directly to me On 2021-03-30 9:22 a.m., Jack Frillman wrote: I tried what you suggested and I can't get it to work. I will try to illustrate this way. I have -- to indicate a column with no entry. Original transaction --

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
Looks like I finally got it to work. While copying I had to delete the amount from the column I was copying from before pasting that value into the other column. Thanks for the tip. On 3/30/21 11:57 AM, Cam Ellison wrote: On 2021-03-30 8:43 a.m., Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: I'm tr

Re: [GNC] Confused Entering A Refund To Credit Card Account

2021-03-30 Thread Cam Ellison
On 2021-03-30 8:43 a.m., Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote: I'm trying to enter a refund split transaction to a credit card account and every time I do I get an Imbalance-USD amount. (see screen shots below) Why is this happening? Screenshots don't work. Easiest way for me to do the re