[GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread flywire
> Here's what my accounting 101 textbook says about cash receipts: >> * All cash receipts should be deposited intact in the bank... Cash disbursements should not be made from cash receipts but only by check or from petty cash. lol Do the accountants want to handle the books for all community grou

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread Liz Dodd
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 15:04:22 -0500 "w...@theprescotts.com" wrote: > Your suggestion about a second person to handle the cash is a good > idea. One of my longstanding complaints has been that no one ever > looks at any of the finances except me. We are a group of about 300 > members with maybe 20

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffic

2020-07-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
One of my nits to pick is the AR module:? if I create an invoice without posting it, I can't find it unless I look at each of my 100+ members.? I'll write an external program to prepare the invoices and keep them in a separate file.? Then I only need to enter it into GNC as they are paid.

Re: [GNC] Sales Ledger Account Is Blank

2020-07-25 Thread John Ralls
> On Jul 25, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Lawrence Joy via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Hello,The "Accounts" tab shows running totals since day one starting the > books, for me just last year (2019).For "Income" category there is a total > amount, which is the same amount as the "Sales" account, and that

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread David Cousens
Will, I think it is a case just of not only doing the right thing but being seen to do the right thing. All is OK until someone with an axe to grind sees the books when they are not yet in a completed state. It is your protection against accusations of fraud or misappropriation of funds etc. Pro

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffic

2020-07-25 Thread Bruce Irving via gnucash-user
Bruce Preach the Gospel wherever you go. If necessary, use words. On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 10:00:50 AM MDT, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:58:53 + (UTC) From: Bruce Irving To: Gnucash Users Subject: Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonpr

[GNC] Sales Ledger Account Is Blank

2020-07-25 Thread Lawrence Joy via gnucash-user
Hello,The "Accounts" tab shows running totals since day one starting the books, for me just last year (2019).For "Income" category there is a total amount, which is the same amount as the "Sales" account, and that amount is the total of three sub accounts (for me this is by U.S. State). Again, a

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread w...@theprescotts.com
Your suggestion about a second person to handle the cash is a good idea. One of my longstanding complaints has been that no one ever looks at any of the finances except me. We are a group of about 300 members with maybe 20 that take an active role in the organization. There is too much to do and

Re: [GNC] Difficulty with online price retrieval

2020-07-25 Thread John Ralls
Samantha, Powershell (Admin) just means Powershell with admin privilege. Starting it will raise a User Authorization Escalation dialog box asking if you're sure that you want Powershell to "make changes to your device". You don't need it for this test, plain Powershell is fine. Yes, Powershell.

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread John Ralls
Here's what my accounting 101 textbook [1] says about cash receipts: * A record of all cash receipts should be prepared as soon as the cash is received. * All cash receipts should be deposited intact in the bank, preferably by the next business day. Cash disbursements should not be made from cash

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread w...@theprescotts.com
As I said earlier, I am not an accountant just a volunteer keeping the books for a couple of groups. Michael comments: "and NOT currency sitting around undeposited (of course don't do THAT)." I do do that and wonder why it is a bad idea. I frequently get incoming cash, mostly from T-shirt sales.

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
I am going to jump in here because I strongly disagree with a lot of this. I have used gnucash quite successfully with non-profits. But they have different needs.  a) "Petty cash" is NOT "undeposited cash". And that's not what is usually meant by "undeposited cash. Thus NOT the little individual

Re: [GNC] Difficulty with online price retrieval

2020-07-25 Thread Samantha Payn
John, thank you for your continued support. Before I try this can I just clarify two points: I have a choice of Windows Powershell and Windows Powershell (Admin): which should I choose? And in the middle of your email I presume you mean "Powershell" (not Poweshell as typed)?

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread John Ralls
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:59 PM, jean laroche wrote: > > Perhaps the developers (including me, in a modest manner) could then discuss > whether these would be easy to add/fix. Perhaps these features have been > discussed in the past? Job costing, in particular, may not be that hard to > imp

Re: [GNC] Difficulty with online price retrieval

2020-07-25 Thread John Ralls
Samantha, Next, some command-line testing. You can use CMD if you like, but I find Powershell to be a bit friendlier and easier to get to: Just right-click in the Start menu and it's in the middle. Once you have a shell, cd to C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin. First you'll need to set your A

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Bruce, what procedure are you using to search for the un-posted invoices? Regards, Adrien On 7/25/20 9:58 AM, Bruce Irving via gnucash-user wrote: One of my nits to pick is the AR module:  if I create an invoice without posting it, I can't find it unless I look at each of my 100+ members.  I

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread Bruce Irving via gnucash-user
Very interesting conversation.I supposedly learned Job Costing in Business school in the 70s.  30 years later, I wound up with an employer that used it - or rather his Accounting system did as still understand it.  But I survived. Now I'm using GnuCash for a non-profit which isn't required to mak

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread w...@theprescotts.com
On cash... I agree with Don's comments and concerns about cash accounting. I live and work in Mexico where it is not uncommon for people to insist on cash to the point of not accepting a debit card. For major expenses, I will use an ATM to get nearly the exact amount for those expenses and only

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread doncram
Thanks Will, Jean, and John for your jumping in, and your many good points in response to my posting. To Jean, yes, most important to me would be development of Job Costing, because then many/most nonprofits could be served (which must be able to track restricted grants) and both non-profits and f

Re: [GNC] Difficulty with online price retrieval

2020-07-25 Thread Samantha Payn
Thank you for your help John. I have done as you instruct (including restarting Gnucash after the install) but there is now a different problem. The Gnucash about info now does show version 1.49 for Finance::Quote The Get Quotes button does light up, but when I click it I get an e

Re: [GNC] BotanyBayGardens nonprofit example, and why GnuCash does not suffice

2020-07-25 Thread John G Sullivan
When I saw this come up, I avoided jumping in since I'm not an accountant; however, I have been treasurer for a couple of nonprofits, including one which are subsidiary of a large nonprofit. a. the expectations of any software to fit most issues is high. The treasurer is almost always going to