Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-11 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Thu, 11 May 2000, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Unfortunately, if you happen to edit the date-typed-in by mistake, > there is no way of finding the error by looking for recently entered > (or recently changed) transactions. The only "edit" should be to set it to "now". > Also, if the date-changed is t

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
> > I'm not sure how it works in Quicken. I was referring to just sorting > by the date of entry, not changing it. But now that I think of it, if > we switch to sorting by the date of entry, we could go ahead and show > the date of entry in the left column instead of the 'real' date typed > in, a

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Dave Peticolas
> > > Great! > > > > > > I've always wanted this feature in Quicken, but I didn't know it existed. > > > This would be very helpful when you realize that a transaction you could > > > swear you just entered has disappeared, and you're not sure if you haven' > t > > > entered it yet or if you used

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Gerald Champagne
> > Great! > > > > I've always wanted this feature in Quicken, but I didn't know it existed. > > This would be very helpful when you realize that a transaction you could > > swear you just entered has disappeared, and you're not sure if you haven't > > entered it yet or if you used the wrong date

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Dave Peticolas
> Dave Peticolas wrote: > > > > > > > > Just to add my voice to the mix: > > > > > > I want to be able to sort my register using time C (Quicken can do > > > this, btw) because when I'm doing my monthly reconcile with the bank > > > stmt, I always end up with a bunch of transactions which I never

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Gerald Champagne
Dave Peticolas wrote: > > > > > Just to add my voice to the mix: > > > > I want to be able to sort my register using time C (Quicken can do > > this, btw) because when I'm doing my monthly reconcile with the bank > > stmt, I always end up with a bunch of transactions which I never > > entered dur

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Randolph Fritz
[Resent--I misdirected this the first time.] -- Randolph Fritz Eugene, Oregon, USA On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:00:05PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > But you do have that control, don't you? They should stay in the order you > enter them in unless you give them dates and/or numbers that will c

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Randolph Fritz
I was just discovering that I cannot control the placement of an "adjust balance" transaction in an account; if there are any other transactions on that day I cannot predict where it will fall or what it will leave the account balance. How is this supposed to be used? -- Randolph Fritz Eugene, O

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-04 Thread Jeremy Collins
Dave Peticolas wrote: > > > > > Just to add my voice to the mix: > > > > I want to be able to sort my register using time C (Quicken can do > > this, btw) because when I'm doing my monthly reconcile with the bank > > stmt, I always end up with a bunch of transactions which I never > > entered dur

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Peticolas
> > Just to add my voice to the mix: > > I want to be able to sort my register using time C (Quicken can do > this, btw) because when I'm doing my monthly reconcile with the bank > stmt, I always end up with a bunch of transactions which I never > entered during the month (for whatever reason).

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-03 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
> "CB" == Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CB> On 01 May 2000 22:06:07 CDT, the world broke into rejoicing as CB> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Christopher Browne writes: >> > We thus have _three_ times: >> >> > a) The moment at which you incurred the tr

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Randolph Fritz writes: > Well, my specific problem is that I maintain both a paper and electronic > check register. Without control over the order of entries I essentially > have to reconcile the two registers. But you do have that control, don't you? They should stay in the order you enter the

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread Randolph Fritz
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 08:51:17PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > >From an accounting viewpoint, the order of entries which all carry the same > date is irrelevant in any circumstance in which a gnucash is likely to find > herself. > Well, my specific problem is that I maintain both a paper and e

RE: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread Leach, Chris J (Oakton)
As a naive user for personal use the various dates that may be relevant are > a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction whether or not at this time my back/check/credit account has been updated I need to know whether I'm on budget or have/will have funds available for next transaction. T

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Christopher Browne writes: > Sorry, I don't think so. If I go on vacation to Nepal for 2 months, and > don't get around to entering information 'til I get back, the backlog > doesn't affect the fact that the two months worth of credit card charges > hit accounts whilst I was away. A special situ

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Richard Wackerbarth writes: > The question is "Have we really gained enough to warrant the effort?" >From an accounting viewpoint, the order of entries which all carry the same date is irrelevant in any circumstance in which a gnucash is likely to find herself. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Richard Wackerbarth writes: > If I am posting entries from ANY other source, I will use the date > recorded in that source. For example, I might normally enter the checks > that I write while I am writing them. However, I sometimes use a check > for some purpose other than mailing a payment. In th

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread Randolph Fritz
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 06:16:34AM -0500, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > > However, I don't think there is any satisfactory solution that will please > everyone. > For that reason, I think it would probably be best to make it possible for the user to determine the order. -- Randolph Fritz Euge

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Tue, 02 May 2000, Rob Walker wrote: > Agreed, as do I. However, I thought we were only talking about > journal entries which fell on the same calendar date, no? I would have used different terminology to convey that meaning. I agree that, for JE assigned to the same time interval, order en

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-02 Thread Dave Peticolas
> > > On Mon, 1 May 2000 22:17:43 -0500, Richard Wackerbarth > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Richard> On Mon, 01 May 2000, John Hasler wrote: > >> Christopher Browne writes: > >> > We thus have _three_ times: > >> > > >> > a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction, > >> > b)

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Rob Walker
> On Mon, 1 May 2000 22:17:43 -0500, Richard Wackerbarth > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Richard> On Mon, 01 May 2000, John Hasler wrote: >> Christopher Browne writes: >> > We thus have _three_ times: >> > >> > a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction, >> > b) The moment at which

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Rob Walker
> On 01 May 2000 22:06:07 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: John> Christopher Browne writes: >> We thus have _three_ times: >> a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction, >> b) The moment at which the effects of the transaction hit your bank account, >> and >> c)

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Christopher Browne
On 01 May 2000 22:06:07 CDT, the world broke into rejoicing as John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Christopher Browne writes: > > We thus have _three_ times: > > > a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction, > > b) The moment at which the effects of the transaction hit your bank acc

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Mon, 01 May 2000, John Hasler wrote: > Christopher Browne writes: > > We thus have _three_ times: > > > > a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction, > > b) The moment at which the effects of the transaction hit your bank > > account, and > > c) The moment at which you typed in the tra

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread John Hasler
Christopher Browne writes: > We thus have _three_ times: > a) The moment at which you incurred the transaction, > b) The moment at which the effects of the transaction hit your bank account, > and > c) The moment at which you typed in the transaction. > All three being legitimately different.

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Mon, 01 May 2000, Christopher Browne wrote: > By the way, another moment that I _would_ consider of some value would be > the moment at which the split was marked as "reconciled as clear." (To > connect this to the other discussion about Reconciliation...) > I have had occasion to care about

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Peticolas
> > By the way, another moment that I _would_ consider of some value would be the > moment at which the split was marked as "reconciled as clear." (To connect > this to the other discussion about Reconciliation...) > We track that date, sort of. Whenver the reconciliation status of a split is

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Christopher Browne
> > does it right now go in the order they were entered? What about adding an > > optional ordering within each day, where put either the credits or the debi ts > > first within that day. > > Doesn't the engine store the transaction time in seconds since 1970? If this is > the > case, what is

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Peticolas
> > does it right now go in the order they were entered? What about adding an > > optional ordering within each day, where put either the credits or the debi > ts > > first within that day. > > Doesn't the engine store the transaction time in seconds since 1970? If this > is > the > case, what

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Derek Atkins
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The exception to this would be if you have an accounts receivable > account, and intend to charge interest based on daily balances. It > may be necessary to have an unambiguous ordering of this, particularly > if the rate depends somehow on minim

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Gerald Champagne
> does it right now go in the order they were entered? What about adding an > optional ordering within each day, where put either the credits or the debits > first within that day. Doesn't the engine store the transaction time in seconds since 1970? If this is the case, what is the default valu

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Mon, 01 May 2000, you wrote: > The control is quite worthless, in all but one case, as it is _generally_ > going to be the case that GnuCash is _loosely_ tracking what is happening > in someone's bank account. > > By loosely, I mean that GnuCash is not likely to be the authoritative > source o

Re: Order of transactions

2000-05-01 Thread Christopher Browne
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:01:08 PDT, the world broke into rejoicing as Rob Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 12:52:06AM -0700, Dave Peticolas wrote: > > > Is there any way to control the order of transactions within a day? > > > With my check register, I get situations where

Re: Order of transactions

2000-04-29 Thread Rob Walker
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 12:52:06AM -0700, Dave Peticolas wrote: > > Is there any way to control the order of transactions within a day? > > With my check register, I get situations where gnucash sometimes posts > > large withdrawals before deposits, resulting in apparent negative > > checking bala

Re: Order of transactions

2000-04-29 Thread Dave Peticolas
> Is there any way to control the order of transactions within a day? > With my check register, I get situations where gnucash sometimes posts > large withdrawals before deposits, resulting in apparent negative > checking balances. Right now the order is hard-coded. What sort of control were you