Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-13 Thread Rob Browning
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, are there any limitations that you can think of that would come up > if Perl can't get that far into the internals of the engine? > > For example, would it be impossible to write one's personal configuration > settings in Perl? The way I'

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-11 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bzzt, you missed the point, you don't need to implement a parser (that > was PHP's big mistake that eperl solves). All that the start-tag does is > imply 'pipe this from here, up to the end tag, to the stdin of the > real parser'. Umm. I'm not so sure I missed the

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-11 Thread jrb
> >> As long as we're talking about what components to swap out, it was reporte d > >> on the gimp list today by Federico Mena that the GNOME project is dumping > >> the use of GtkXmHTML, the Gtk port of XmHTML. He indicated that it wasn't > >> being maintained any more and had some other problem

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-11 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Rob Browning said: > > 1) create a special markup language, and let an interpreter make > >substituitons into it: > > > > The account name is > > The account balance is > > > >Pros: effective, high performance, low-tech, simple. > >

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-11 Thread Dave Peticolas
> It's been rumoured that Dave Peticolas said: > > On a related note, can you build without nana? > > > > Has anyone used nana? Right now, we just seem > > to be using it as a replacement for 'assert'. > > I'm not married to nana. It doesn't do all of the things I would have > liked it to do. I

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That doesn't sound that unreasonable. I think, if I understand you > correctly, is that it would be possible to do everything with Perl > rather than Guile, but that it would not be part of the official > GNUcash distribution nor would it be suppor

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Turns out (duhh) tightly intertwining html with code is a bad idea, > whether that is C or perl or scheme. So I'd strongly advise against > the style shown above, other than maybe as a test case/scaffolding. Right. I just meant to use it to replace what we have now,

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Rob Browning said: > > You can give the HTML widget an HTML string, yes. > > > > As I understand it, the way report generation works now is that > > eperl is invoked on an html file with embedded perl commands which > > use the perl<->engine bindings to calculate the value

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Dave Peticolas said: > On a related note, can you build without nana? > > Has anyone used nana? Right now, we just seem > to be using it as a replacement for 'assert'. I'm not married to nana. It doesn't do all of the things I would have liked it to do. In particular, I

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's

1999-11-10 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Tim Mooney said: > >> use a new HTML widget, GtkHTML. We've had problems with XmHTML. Curretnly, its use is isolated to one file and changing to something else should be straigh-forward, since no sophiosticated hooks are used. --linas -- Gnucash Developer's List To u

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Bradley M. Kuhn said: > What do you think about a Perl interface that is directly in XS? I don't think anyone is in a position to turn down patches that integrate well, configure scripts that work, and code that works. Since you're painting something that's better tan swig

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On a related note, can you build without nana? I'm not sure. Some of the code is set up that way, but I don't know if all of it has, and I don't know if configure's happy about that. In the long run, I suppose it should be controlled with --enable-de

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Dave Peticolas
> Not planned. I think the overall idea is to move the swig/perl stuff > off into its own partition, and if configure can't find the right > bits, it just doesn't get built. Or perhaps we should just have a > --enable-perl so you have to ask for it. Ok, that makes sense. It will make gnucash ea

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
Tim Mooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As long as we're talking about what components to swap out, it was > reported on the gimp list today by Federico Mena that the GNOME > project is dumping the use of GtkXmHTML, the Gtk port of XmHTML. He > indicated that it wasn't being maintained any more

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Will we be removing swig as well? Not planned. I think the overall idea is to move the swig/perl stuff off into its own partition, and if configure can't find the right bits, it just doesn't get built. Or perhaps we should just have a --enable-perl

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Dave Peticolas
> As long as we're talking about what components to swap out, it was reported > on the gimp list today by Federico Mena that the GNOME project is dumping > the use of GtkXmHTML, the Gtk port of XmHTML. He indicated that it wasn't > being maintained any more and had some other problems, so GNOME

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Dave Peticolas
> Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Are there plans for phasing out the eperl stuff and using > > something else for report generation? > > That's the general plan, though there's nothing too concrete at the > moment. Good :) eperl seems like a pain to install. I've never actuall

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are there plans for phasing out the eperl stuff and using > something else for report generation? That's the general plan, though there's nothing too concrete at the moment. I haven't looked into the current report generation stuff, and I'm not reall

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Dave Peticolas
> It's been rumoured that James A. Treacy said: > > > However, I wondercould we mitigate the problems you describe by allow > ing > > > users who don't want it to turn off the option at compile time, and by be > ing > > > careful to control what access is given to the scripting language? > >

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread Rob Browning
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, I wondercould we mitigate the problems you describe by > allowing users who don't want it to turn off the option at compile > time, and by being careful to control what access is given to the > scripting language? > > Baring that, if a

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that James A. Treacy said: > > However, I wondercould we mitigate the problems you describe by allowing > > users who don't want it to turn off the option at compile time, and by being > > careful to control what access is given to the scripting language? The problem with p

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-10 Thread James A. Treacy
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 08:47:59AM -0500, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > Rob Browning wrote: > > So, after thinking about all these bits, we decided that we needed to pick > > just one language as the embedded one. In the end we went with Guile. To > > be fair, that's probably in large part my fault.

Re: Perl in internals (was Re: A bit off topic---Java as "SUN's language" (was Re: Java implementation))

1999-11-09 Thread Rob Browning
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am Guile fan as well, but I think it's important to allow Perl to > do as much for folks as what Guile can do. Is there any way to keep > this behavior, or does your design forbid it? > > If it's the former, and you just lack the time to maintain