G2 Testing (12051) - Accounts Window/File-Open

2005-12-02 Thread Volker Englisch
Testing continues with the File --> Open menu option: - I'm not sure if this is intended but just in case it is not I wanted to mention it: When I have the main Accounts window open I see the following sub menus listed Open... Open Budget Open Account Open Subaccounts W

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 06:37:32PM -0700, Chris Lyttle wrote: > Um, actually even tho HEAD currently doesn't have the NEWS file from > 1.8.x it is there and NEWS has been updated for every release so far. I > know, I do those updates 'manually' from looking at the log messages in > the Changelog an

Re: [RFC] Use donations for more memory for svn/cvs/mail server

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Lyttle
My vote is option 2 as well. Chris On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 13:02 -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Even though I "control" the donation account, I felt it only > appropriate to obtain approval from the developer community > before using it for anything. My "request" is to purchase > more memory for th

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Lyttle
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:45 +0100, Christian Stimming wrote: > Derek Atkins schrieb: > >> On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 16:25 -0500, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > >> > >>> Comments? > >> > >> This change is fine with me, and sounds good. > > > > Before we go ahead with this, I'd like to hear from Chris Lyttle

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:50:22PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Quoting Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>When you leave the ChangeLog generation out of the developer's hands, > >>you can't get this level of detail. > > > >Sure you can. Just include those details in the commit message. >

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Friday 02 December 2005 9:32 pm, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > > All you get is the overarching description. You lose the ability to > > say what happened in each file. Maybe you don't document your > > changes enough to want that ability, but I do. > > Per-file documentation of a single commit is

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Benoit Grégoire
On December 2, 2005 04:45 pm, Neil Williams wrote: > Sometimes, yes, especially if the commit fixes a couple of different issues > across different (but interdependent) files. However, recently I've found > this does generate duplication. There have been quite a few ChangeLog > entries that are: >

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: When you leave the ChangeLog generation out of the developer's hands, you can't get this level of detail. Sure you can. Just include those details in the commit message. But then the actual ChangeLog looks... Weird. Or at least I suspect it woul

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Friday 02 December 2005 8:59 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: > I just thought of the one reason this proposal really bothers me. > I knew there was something that wasn't sitting right and why I didn't > think this would work. It's not that I'm against making developers > lives easier, but I want to mak

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:10:24PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: I would prefer if you refrained at this moment.. I don't think we have consensus on this change, yet. Sorry, I pulled the trigger just before I saw your mail. There does seem to be sup

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:10:24PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > I would prefer if you refrained at this moment.. I don't think we have > consensus on this change, yet. Sorry, I pulled the trigger just before I saw your mail. There does seem to be support for *some* change. My change doesn't aff

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 03:59:27PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > I just thought of the one reason this proposal really bothers me. > I knew there was something that wasn't sitting right and why I didn't > think this would work. It's not that I'm against making developers > lives easier, but I want

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Josh Sled
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:59 -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > As for how to get the list of files changed, you can just run a diff: > > svn diff | grep '^Index' `svn status` works quite nicely for figuring out the file-level status. ...jsled -- http://asynchronous.org/ - `a=jsled; b=asynchronous.

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:14:30PM -0500, Chris Shoemaker wrote: My preferred implementation of the policy change is currently: - Continue the pattern Christian started of pulling old ChangeLog entries into archive files. These files would contin

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
I just thought of the one reason this proposal really bothers me. I knew there was something that wasn't sitting right and why I didn't think this would work. It's not that I'm against making developers lives easier, but I want to make sure we don't lose something in kind. I like the ability to

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:14:30PM -0500, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > My preferred implementation of the policy change is currently: > > - Continue the pattern Christian started of pulling old ChangeLog > entries into archive files. These files would continue to live in svn. BTW, I think that for

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 12:20:25PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Quoting Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >Hmm, seems to be in the same vein as rcs2log and cvs2cl. It's a bit > >more complicated than I'd like, but I guess that's the price paid for > >such precise control over formatting. >

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 09:04:45AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If you want to automatically generate the ChangeLog, which continues > > to carry all the same information, that's great. I don't care *how* > > the ChangeLog file gets into the d

Re: [RFC] Use donations for more memory for svn/cvs/mail server

2005-12-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Friday 02 December 2005 6:02 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: > I honestly don't think we're running anything extraordinary, > and the server load is pretty low, so perhaps I'm just being > alarmist about using up 25% of our swap space. But that's > why I'm sending out this RFC -- to get your opinions.

Re: [RFC] Use donations for more memory for svn/cvs/mail server

2005-12-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
well I'm not a dev, but am a donator, and I say do it and go ahead and max it out and be done with the problem. I suspect that the G2 release will generate a lot more activity for gnucash and your "alarm" will bear out at that time. I'd hate to see a g2 release generate enough activity to bring

[RFC] Use donations for more memory for svn/cvs/mail server

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Even though I "control" the donation account, I felt it only appropriate to obtain approval from the developer community before using it for anything. My "request" is to purchase more memory for the server. Currently the server has 512MB of DDR333 SDRAM. Right now it's using all that RAM and sit

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Chris Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hmm, seems to be in the same vein as rcs2log and cvs2cl. It's a bit more complicated than I'd like, but I guess that's the price paid for such precise control over formatting. *shrugs* I figured I'd throw it out. I don't particularly like this o

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 09:04:45AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If you want to automatically generate the ChangeLog, which continues > > to carry all the same information, that's great. I don't care *how* > > the ChangeLog file gets into the d

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 03:45:35PM +0100, Christian Stimming wrote: > Derek Atkins schrieb: > >>On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 16:25 -0500, Chris Shoemaker wrote: > >> > >>>Comments? > >> > >>This change is fine with me, and sounds good. > > > >Before we go ahead with this, I'd like to hear from Chris Lyttl

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Shoemaker
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 06:05:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Personally, I like being able to grep through the changelog in order > > to see, e.g. whether a particular change made it into a particular > > release. I suppose I can always red

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Christian Stimming
Derek Atkins schrieb: On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 16:25 -0500, Chris Shoemaker wrote: Comments? This change is fine with me, and sounds good. Before we go ahead with this, I'd like to hear from Chris Lyttle and Christian Stimming.. They're the ones who usually use the ChangeLog to generate the N

Re: [RFC] Policy change for ChangeLog

2005-12-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you want to automatically generate the ChangeLog, which continues > to carry all the same information, that's great. I don't care *how* > the ChangeLog file gets into the distribution, only that it do so. Another option would be to perform a "