Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread Rob Browning
Patrick Spinler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In short - Wow ! I like it. And if you'd seen Bill's latest embedded (in gtkhtml) guppi work, you'd be really excited. It's *painfully* slick. A bit of html-esque text and all of a sudden, an interactive guppi graph based on the data in the

Re: db2?

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Peticolas
Herbert Thoma writes: > Hello! > > checking for db_open in -ldb2... no > configure: error: Cannot find db2. See the README for more info. > > README is not quite up to date ;-) > > What do I need for db2? Where can I find it? > Yet another dependency :-( The db2 dependency should be gone now.

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread Al Snell
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's been rumoured that Derek Atkins said: > > > > This is an interesting approach, but HTTP is _SLOW_. You have to > > ahh, what are you envisioning? a thousand hits a second? > www.linas.org serves up 20K pages a day, and serves up > cvs.gnucash

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread Al Snell
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > investigate using ONC RPC as the marshalling system, which is much > > less overhead than CORBA, > > Its not obvious to me that any RPC has lower overhead than corba. > I'm tempted to beleive the opposite. No way - RPC is far more lightweight th

Re: parent accounts, groups, and classes

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Peticolas
David Merrill writes: > In light of the discussions we have been having over whether the > account group mechanism should be strictly hierarchical or whether an > account should be allowed to exist within more than one group, I am > considering providing both capabilities in the database. > > Fir

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Peter C. Norton said: > > > > Interesting, I haven't looked at libgnc_engine. Have you, in turn, looked > > > at the gda library being developed for gnome-db? > > > It's being separated from the gnome-db stuff, and it was done at the behest > of the gnue folks. It's no

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Peter C. Norton said: > > Interesting, I haven't looked at libgnc_engine. Have you, in turn, looked > at the gda library being developed for gnome-db? Sort-of. libgda was one of the contributing technologies to the gnue GEAS component, I haven't exactly figured out the

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Derek Atkins said: > > This is an interesting approach, but HTTP is _SLOW_. You have to ahh, what are you envisioning? a thousand hits a second? www.linas.org serves up 20K pages a day, and serves up cvs.gnucash.org, and its a 7 year old 486 whose load average stays und

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > I'll also mention that psql spits out its tables in customizable html, > and can be run via cgi scripts. You can write shell scripts or perl > scripts to execute queries and retrieve the results in html tables. This is of course a possiblity, but the

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > Does this mean you are envisioning a server which can handle more than > one set of accounts and more than one set of transactions? Yes. Since its 'just' a set of cgi-bins, then there's a variety of easy ways of having leak-proof separation betwee

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread linas
Hi Derek, I want to say up front that I'm enjoying this conversation. I say this because my response may seem like flame bait at times. So please don't interpret any terseness or stridency below as an attack. --linas It's been rumoured that Derek Atkins said: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: db2?

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Peticolas
Herbert Thoma writes: > Hello! > > checking for db_open in -ldb2... no > configure: error: Cannot find db2. See the README for more info. > > README is not quite up to date ;-) > > What do I need for db2? Where can I find it? > Yet another dependency :-( I'm going to try to remove the depende

Re: db2?

2000-12-21 Thread Derek Atkins
I'm not sure where -ldb2 is.. I don't have it on my Red Hat system, either. Although -ldb certainly contains db_open() (but -ldb1 doesn't). Perhaps we can make this check such that if -ldb2 fails it falls back to checking -ldb? -derek Herbert Thoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello! > > ch

parent accounts, groups, and classes

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
In light of the discussions we have been having over whether the account group mechanism should be strictly hierarchical or whether an account should be allowed to exist within more than one group, I am considering providing both capabilities in the database. First, the group table would define g

db2?

2000-12-21 Thread Herbert Thoma
Hello! checking for db_open in -ldb2... no configure: error: Cannot find db2. See the README for more info. README is not quite up to date ;-) What do I need for db2? Where can I find it? Yet another dependency :-( Thanks in advance, Herbert. -- Herbert Thoma FhG-IIS A, Studio Department Am

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread Derek Atkins
David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it possible that the answer is to take the existing engine code and > separate the Query API into calls into a corresponding API on the > server side? I'm still getting familiar with the code, so I have only > a vague concept of its functions. But ob

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread Al Snell
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, David Merrill wrote: > Is it possible that the answer is to take the existing engine code and > separate the Query API into calls into a corresponding API on the > server side? I'm still getting familiar with the code, so I have only > a vague concept of its functions. But ob

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:03:13PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think the SQL code should not be marshalled over the wire. Keep SQL > > on the server side entirely. > > Oh, I agree. I would rather marshall requests in a more > GnuCash-centric ma

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread Derek Atkins
David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the SQL code should not be marshalled over the wire. Keep SQL > on the server side entirely. Oh, I agree. I would rather marshall requests in a more GnuCash-centric manner (e.g., the Query API) and marshall GnuCash Objects (e.g. Splits, Accoun

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread Al Snell
On 21 Dec 2000, Derek Atkins wrote: [much scary yet true stuff about network security] > I've just grabbed a book on CORBA, and I'm looking at information on > ORBit. I've certainly not bought into to one camp or another. "Distributed Objects Survival Guide", although it looks like a stupid "C

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:13:02PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Lets reanalyse the requirements. You want security. Why? to run over > > the open internet? If you're running over the open internet, then > > Not exactly. It's just that I don't trust the network

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread Derek Atkins
This is an interesting approach, but HTTP is _SLOW_. You have to setup and teardown a TCP connection for each request, and you have to build an SSL association for each request. This just takes time. Not only that, but forking off a CGI is also very expensive. Having all of the network conne

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread Derek Atkins
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lets reanalyse the requirements. You want security. Why? to run over > the open internet? If you're running over the open internet, then Not exactly. It's just that I don't trust the network I'm sitting on, regardless of where I am. Let's suffice it to say that t

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread Patrick Spinler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK, here's the dope: > > I don't think rob is entirely aware of the possibilities that his XML > file format opens up. Some of the readers of this mailing list may > also not be aware of what demos grib has done with embedding guppi > in html. I don't know how man

Re: guile & i18n

2000-12-21 Thread Bill Gribble
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 12:59:58AM -0800, Dave Peticolas wrote: > (display (_ "Hello, World")) ;; print the appropriate translation > ;; of "Hello, World" Thanks Dave! you're a god. b.g. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EM

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 08:55:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK, here's the dope: > > I don't think rob is entirely aware of the possibilities that his XML > file format opens up. Some of the readers of this mailing list may > also not be aware of what demos grib has done with embedd

db build scripts

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
I am now building tables in pg and I've made the build scripts available at http://www.lupercalia.net/createschema.sql. The table schema in the design doc are out of date slightly, and will become more so. I am leaving them there for the time being so I can make notes and refer to them to see why

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 08:55:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK, here's the dope: > > I don't think rob is entirely aware of the possibilities that his XML > file format opens up. Some of the readers of this mailing list may > also not be aware of what demos grib has done with embedd

Re: DB design document

2000-12-21 Thread David Merrill
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:03:13PM -0800, Dave Peticolas wrote: > "Phillip Shelton" writes: > > > > ACCOUNT > > --- > > account_guidchar32 > > parent_account_guid char32 -> account.account_guid > > group_guid char32 ->

Re: client-server

2000-12-21 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 20-Dec-2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I beleive the above architecture renders the whole previous > discussion moot. I also think its a very, very exciting thing to do. > It solves a number of technical issues, such as multi-user, that > have been plaguing us. Next, it

guile & i18n

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Peticolas
I have implemented a new way of using gettext from scheme files that is easier to use than the string databases that are currently used in, for example, the reports. Essentially, it works the same way as in C. To mark a string as translatable and load the translation at the same time, use the '_