To import a JSON-file in JS is very simple, instructions can be found here:
http://www.json.org/js.html
2013/12/7 Megh Parikh
> How to use XML (or JSON) file from internet and interpret it?
>
> Also why have extensions not been reviewed from a long time
>
> _
Hi,
Does the extension put the options from the App Menu anywhere in the
application or are they just lost?
2013/2/22 Gabriel Rossetti
> Hi,
>
> I wrote an extension that does this "Remove Panel App Menu" as I find the
> AppMenu counter-productive, confusing (why have menus in two different
> pl
2012/8/22 Jonathan Wilkes
> To turn off the computer takes (let's say) 20 seconds. To turn it on takes
> (say) 40 seconds. Entering/leaving suspend mode takes (say) 7.5 seconds.
> So the questions are: how much time in suspend mode is equal to the power
> used by 45 seconds of running my laptop
Den 3 mar 2012 00.58 skrev "Jasper St. Pierre" :
>
> > Except those times we need to load a new kernel with new security
patches on.
>
> If there's installed updates, we should swap the Suspend button with a
> Restart button. That's the designed behaviour, and I believe there's
> an open bug for it
> The reason is that GNOME 3 is geared towards power saving and wear and
> tear. Shutting down your laptop is not as good as suspend.
Do you have any sources to back up the claim that it's less power
consuming to suspend a computer then to shut it down or hibernate it?
> So when people as you, i
> The reason is that GNOME 3 is geared towards power saving and wear and
> tear. Shutting down your laptop is not as good as suspend.
Do you have any sources to back up the claim that suspending your
computer saves more electricity than hibernating or shuttting it down?
> So when people as you,
2012/3/2 clemens :
> Everybody that is able to install linux + gnome-shell without internet
> connection should be able to press the alt button or open a terminal
> and use one of the approximately 42 methods to shut down.
> And if its really that important to have the button grep + vim will help
>
The Activities overview activates on keyup so it doesn't block other
Super+ events.
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Most likely not.
You will probably have to get on the IRC for that.
2012/2/10 informalibre montceau
> Hello,
>
> On my proposal I have not had positive responses or critical.
>
> Will I get feedback?
>
> thank you
>
> Jerome
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Hi,
There was this other thread which I decided not not to reply to since,
well, it wouldn't really help anyone. But this seems to have turned into a
friendly constructive conversation, hat off for Tassilo, so I'll throw in
some thoughts.
This person asked if anything was going to be done to stop
Hi Tassilo,
Wandells complaints were more on the way the software is developed rather
than the software itself. That those who come to this list with suggestions
and ideas are verbally berated and otherwise treated badly because they do
not fit within the target audience of Gnome Shell.
What you
2011/11/2 António Fernandes
> Moving windows between workspaces is one of the things the overview is
> there for, and it is very good at that. I do not see why one would want not
> to use it. And overview is just one mouse movement away, thanks to the hot
> corner.
It might just be the case tha
2011/8/18 Olav Vitters
> It is not about individual people, just trying to determine what is best
> for most. This was explained by a designer at the Desktop Summit. First
> make it work for most, then try and figure out how to make it work for
> the rest + "long tail".
>
Making it work for the
2011/7/28 Onyeibo Oku
> Not sure I understand what you mean by natural scrolling.
His suggestion seems to be that in the activities overview desktop area:
When the right mouse button is clicked and held it grabs the workspace grid,
much like you grab and scroll on a mobile touchscreen. This cou
Consider the download-manager part of any web-browser. It would do great as
a persistent notification. When the user starts to download, lets say an
.iso, a notification pops up at the bottom of the screen telling the user
that her download has started. If the user mouses over the notification
furt
> But thought I'd also float the idea here: using pageUp/pageDown for
> workspace navigation in the overview mode. It seems like a very
> natural feature to me, any reasons against it?
>
No that seems like a very natural use of those keys. I can't see them used
in the overview mode for anything el
> How would the extension site launch the HTTP server? (Well, with
> systemd, we can use socket activation, but that's up to the Fedora
> guys)
>
>
I read something in this list about using a browser extension. But now that
I think about it, browser extensions are most likely not allowed to trigger
Hello,
I'm not sure if I'm absolutely out of line; But couldn't the local web
server be not running at all until launched either by the user visiting the
extension site or that it's time to look for updates?
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> I guess that using workspaces will work pretty well. You can move from
> workspaces to workspaces using either the overview or the Ctrl+Alt+up or
> down.
> Each workspace can then be used to group multiple sets of applications
> together for improved productivity [image:
Try removing the users from the group power. This group exists on many, but
not all, Linux distributions and regulates the users ability to change the
power state of the machine.
Ask in a forum for your specific distribution as this is not a gnome-shell
related issue.
2011/6/3 Sw@g
> Hi all,
>
The whole argument for not having Power Off as a visible option in the menu
seems to boil down to cultural convention. And I hope everyone here
understands that people do things in different ways in different cultures.
Sometimes people even do things differently than the local convention.
You cann
2011/5/26 Adam Williamson
> Well, step back and look at the bigger picture. Why does Shell have a
> Suspend option and no Power Off option by default (and originally,
> before the Alt hack, had no Power Off option *at all*)? The idea was to
> influence people in the direction of seeing suspend/re
>
>
> Well, on the windows you have in your house, there's these things called
> "shades" that go up and down, either showing or revealing it.
>
>
Well yes, the writer of the documentation seemed to be unaware of this when
at the time of writing. Shades are solid window blinds often made out of
tex
Is it possible to modify the documentation for creating metacity themes,
maybe in wiki style way?
I would like to provide an explanation to why shaded windows, windows that
are rolled up into their title-bar, are called just that.
This is the documentation I'm talking about:
http://developer.gnome
Thank you for your help!
2011/5/17 Florian Müllner
> On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 11:22 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> > Here you go:
> >
> > http://developer.gnome.org/creating-metacity-themes/stable/
>
> There are a couple of options introduced in version 3 of the format
> which are not covered
Hi,
Where can I find documentation for creating themes for mutter? Since I
understand mutter uses metacity themes, that may be what I'm really looking
for.
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Hi Mark Curtis.
I'm no Gnome developer and have no affiliation with the project other than
that I on occasion submit bug-reports or translations and that I'm
interested in design.
>
>
Keeping the same look of the button but with a completely different action
> is confusing to first time users.
>
But it really raises the question: Wouldn't it be great if the Gnome Shell
application menu offered an easy ways to group applications. Just as a
folder in any file-system. A simple plus-sign underneath the default groups
which creates a new group that the user is free to add any application he or
There are many issues that arise when the design assumes that the user only
have one screen. Another example would be with the proposed removal of the
maximize button from the mutter borders. Instead of using the as proposed
removed maximize button, the user pushes the window up to the top edge of
2010/12/7 Milan Bouchet-Valat
> Le mardi 07 décembre 2010 à 18:24 +0100, Stefano Facchini a écrit :
> > Thanks for the suggestion, but even after renaming I obtain the same
> > behavior :(
> Renaming the binary is not enough: the identifier that matters is
> the .desktop file name, but it has to
2010/12/6 Andreas Wallberg
>
> I have a suggestion to further boost the visual memory of the user.
> Various widgets, borders and text of a workspace could perhaps be
> associated with a particular color, drawn from a palette when the
> workspace is created. These colors do not need to be omnipre
Can this thread be closed?
It is in no way constructive and will lead nowhere.
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>
>
> Is this a known issue, and is there any solution?
>
>
First of all, this would probably fit better in a bugreport:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/
Secondly: You will have to provide more information about the environment in
which you are running Gnome Shell. What version of Gnome Shell, how you
>
> If you want to follow development of new features, you should follow
both GIT and bugzilla. This list is mainly for discussion, not for
code (as I see it)
I think you are missing his point. It seems to me as if he were asking
what features would be added to the shell until it's "final" rele
> well, either compiz or metacity as both are not possible ;) I think that
> was what Florian meant.
>
>
Well yes it is very much possible to use both Metacity and Compiz at the
same time, I am so doing right now. But the whole business is kind of a mess
so it is not too odd that you mix things tog
Am I missing something or does the email of which this is a reply to contain
no message?
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> If we need space I know where we can find it.
> The top bar is already full, the bottom is occupied by notifications (i
> love the Chat).
> The right side needs to stay clean, in case of dual screen.
>
There are those rare cases where people use three or even more screens, so
it's not necessari
>
> I think it is very helpful for gnome-shell to have the effects turned off
> when it detects a video card is not capable of 3d acceleration due to these
> scenarios: old video card or no driver installed.
>
The entire Gnome Shell UI is build using Clutter and it uses OpenGL to draw
everything.
What hits me about Divvy was how easy they made custom sizing. That is
something that could fit well into a shell extension.
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2010/5/18 Kao Chen
> If we push the idea a little more.
> In many situations, people can't use the keyboard to make an Alt-Tab.
> We can make a mix between the actual Alt-Tab and the Clock Hotspot.
> http://nsa14.casimages.com/img/2010/05/18/100518095116505038.jpg
>
Now that may be a good way to
>
>
> Firstly:
> I use the ppa for gnome-shell, and try out the latest build every few days,
> but I've noticed, the screen flickers when some affects happen e.g. when I
> click the clock top-center and it drops down, the screen flickers whilst
> doing so, likewise with the notifications at the bot
Just a note, this is very an iteration on the "save a workspace" idea that
was on this mailing list a couple of months ago. That idea but taken one
step further with not only the applications and their respective documents
saved but also hooked up to the activity journal.
Thumbs up for the idea. I
Anyhow thanks for your input dear community, it has helped me figure out how
and what this design is.
The PieThrower will be a dead-simple interaction, and because of it's
simplicity it will add a non-interruptive way to quickly manage windows that
appears in your workflow. Here are the details on
2010/4/21 Tomasz Sterna
>
> Is there an advantage of laying desktops on a grid and using two more
> shortcuts for switching?
First and absolutely foremost: it makes sense. It makes perfect sense that
when the workspaces are sorted in a grid in the activities overlay they are
also sorted in a g
>
>
> However, we already have a hotspot on the left, to go to the Overview mode.
> Users could get confused by the two systems.
>
>
Yes and I can definitely se the conflict inbetween the aero snap
functionality and users being able to drag items into the activities
overlay. Tough why would you wan
2010/4/19 Kao Chen
> For Aero, we need 3 touch points, one for the whole screen and two for the
> half screens.
> I don't know if it's possible but can we cut the menu-bar sensibility in
> three parts, with a big one in the center?
>
I have been thinking around the same concept and it works grea
2010/4/18 Kao Chen
> Can we imagine a simple window drag and drop like in Compiz, without button
> or menu?
> Can we just throw the application to the right or the left desktop?
>
As far as I've understood from the design documents is that something like
the Windows Aero Snap is going to be impl
>
> And something like that, without overlay.
> http://nsa15.casimages.com/img/2010/04/16/100416090325760623.jpg
>
Something like this could work because it is persistant.
A another try here:
> http://nsa14.casimages.com/img/2010/04/16/100416114827825788.jpg
>
This would not work because of a go
2010/4/15 Joern Konopka
> Hi Guys, just spraying a little bit of ugly realism into this Discussion,
> honestly, i like the PieThrower, but i like to refer to my Mother coming to
> Computers, shes using Ubuntu because i lured her into it and everytime i see
> a new Feature im thinking "Could she b
I hate to complain but what is up with all this forking of threads?
If you are replying to a subject, keep the subject-line. Do not create new
threads by changing the subject-line. It is disorienting.
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2010/4/15 Kaj-Ivar van der Wijst
> Thanks for the good idea. I really like the concept. However, this isn't
> very useful when there are three or more desktops in linear view. Does
> anyone has other ideas to solve this issue?
>
You could instead of arrows have each workspace represented by thei
Good day, I have an idea to present that I would like to call the
PieThrower.
The idea resolvs around providing the user with an easy and fast interface
to "throw" application windows to
different workspaces.
The inspiration came from this very mailing list. Basically the discussion
went around a
>
> I don't understand why everyone wants to run GNOME Shell with a dock. It
> clutters up your screen, uses a lot of memory (especially Docky), and it
> just isn't necessary at all.
First you make the statement that a Dock is in no way needed.
I admit, I am using a dock right now, but it's Doc
My personal, totally ungrounded and should not be trusted in any way,
opinion is that the reason why the window control buttons were moved to the
left side of the window border is because the new Cheif operating officer of
Conanical Matt Asay is an avid user of Apple products.
The reason as stated
Other platforms which the Shell does not work on is:
ATi Radeon 9700 using Mesa 7.6
ATi HD4850 using the propitary Catalyst 10.3 (fglrx)
Mentioned in the path to 2.31,
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RoadmapTwoThirtyOne , is that the
performance of the Shell is key, but yet more key is that the S
>
> And yet, OS X still manages to be both a successful end-user and
> developer-friendly desktop without allowing users to change any of those
> things :)
But that is nowhere near where the Free Software project Gnome wants to go.
The followers, the community if you can call it that, of this cor
Well maybe there should be something more like two ways of sorting and two
ways of listing:
Sorting; Groups and Flat
Listing; Grid and List
Three of these options have already been in the codebase at one point. The
third, Groups with Grid view, could easily be implemented. The job is
already done.
>
> Ack, sorry. I thought you meant the other kind of grid. Nevermind! My
> apologies. And yes, I'm not too fond of the grid either. It should be an
> option; I like categories personally.
I am one who personally love the Category system, even tough it may not be
optimal it is in my mind much eas
Now this thread really contains two different discussions:
The one about what could be done with the minimize button and the
functionality around it.
And so the discussion around adding additional window management buttons.
Buttons, or one button triggering a submenu, that enables the user to kic
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Yeah, that makes sense. The left side of the window could have "left" and
"right" buttons for workspace switching (makes the feature more obvious to
new users). It'd make it look a little more "balanced" (two buttons on each
side), wouldn't it? The program icon can go right before the window tit
I agree; there isn't much of a point to minimizing. Replacing it with
something that sends it to another workspace/icon-ifies it or something
would be a better idea.
Hey that may not be such a bad idea. Why not place buttons, that depending
on how the workspace are currently laid out, allows the u
I don't understand, why change alt-tab thing at all? Everybody is familiar
with alt-tab so much that people even don't turn on their brains when using
it. Every major change will be a major pain for everybody who is used to
current alt-tab behaviour, and when the change actually decreases
usability
You are proposing something like this?
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm167/Rovanion/?action=view¤t=Shell-mockup.png
The two changes you should look at is the X at the top right corner of the
desktop and the + at the lower left corner of the workspace. The oldstyle +
that it was possible to h
> By turning all tabs to windows and let the window manager manage them
> all, there would be too many windows, too many tiny, lookalike
> thumbnails in overview mode as you said, which does not help at all.
>
I think you are misunderstanding the original poster, Apoorva Shamra.
Tabbing functional
>
>
> Overall, I think having tabbed browsing/documents managed by the window
> manager, Gnome Shell and Gnome itself would be modernized, and ease and
> experience of switching of applications/windows would surpass all current
> Operating Systems and Desktop Environments.
>
>
My two cents: This co
2010/2/16 omer akram
> I thought compiz was a window manager;)
No, Compiz is a composition-manager. In gnome often used together with the
Metacity window manager.
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I didn't find any previous bug about this, so I made a new report:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610010
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> Thanks!
> Marina
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rovanion Luckey"
> To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:28:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Windows opening on the wrong workspace
>
>
> This is one bug
This is one bug that I discovered while testing out the attention-management
extension for gnome-shell designed by Jon Nettleton:
When the user drops an application on, lets say workspace number two, and
then enters another workspace some windows, not all, launches on the current
desktop rather th
>
> This extension only replaces the functionality where the bottom window
>> button would blink if a window demanded-attention.
>>
>
That's clear to me, when I return to my testcomputer tomorrow I will make a
short screencast to make sure that I get myself clear. The things I found
may not be that
>
>
> This behavior will only happen if you right click to activate the window.
> Actually it happens when button 3 is pressed. If you have remapped your
> buttons it could be causing this. This may also happen if a window is set to
> be on all workspaces.
>
>
The only application I'm able to ope
I think this is a great idea!! I'd like it very much.
One could use the bottom-left corner as hot-corner to display the list of
thumbnails of minimized windows. Don't know if the developers would add it
to Gnome-Shell, but maybe an extension can handle it...
Tough quite different this concept coul
I encountered two issues while trying out this extensions that doesn't have
to do with the extension itself but rather the behavior of applications.
First I noticed that many applications such as, including but not limited
to, Mumble and PlayOnLinux always appeared on the current workspace rather
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From: Rovanion Luckey
Date: 2010/2/6
Subject: Re: Move across desktops
To: kaj-i...@vanderwijst.com
> I'd suggest something like the iPod/iPhone interface way of scrolling: just
> click and drag the whole screen, and when you release the
"So, there's an extra down-arrow. Not sure what to do about that - when
the match in the second section is clearly way better than the match in
the first section, should we reorder the sections, or is that confusing??"
As the Shell is structured right now running windows does not at all show up
on
Interesting pdf one thing where is this "Message Tray" it talks of this
> is one of the reasons I haven't liked gnome-shell is I haven't found
> either a taskbar or a systray/message area
>
>
This blog post with attatched video mockup shows the planned messaging tray:
http://blogs.gnome.org/mccan
In the design document for gnome shell,
http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/shell/design/GNOME_Shell-20090705.pdf , it is
mentioned that these windows, such as save dialogues and "Are you sure you
want to close"-windows, should be hooked up to the parent window. Without
borders being controlled by
One thing that has been on my mind the last couple of days, and yet I
haven't posted it, is the remember the documents I have open in many DE's.
The feature that saves your current running applications when you log out
and then opens them up again when you log in for your next session.
I have no i
> Here are two suggestions :)
>>
>> 1) When hovering an app in the app well, highlight the corresponding
>> windows
>> 2) Let this feature auto-enable when the mouse sits for more than a
>> couple of seconds on the same app's icon in the app well
>>
>> (1) is easy to discover, so the user will pro
> I do agree that most people are used to having their bar at the bottom, but
> are you saying it should be moved down there by default? The way the bar is
> currently designed, it would look out-of-place at the bottom in my opinion
> (sorry if I'm misunderstanding you, but surely there's at least
Short answer: No, I don't think the top bar will be customizable.
* Long answer: For those that absolutely insist, it kind of already is.*
Is it a design decision aimed to fallow trough to Gnome 3.0 that the top bar
should be stale and uneditable?
It is fully understandable that you at this point
The two most used OSs, Mac and Windows, includes some sort of search tool to
launch applications and find documents tightly integrated with the DE and
file mananger. I know several users that until I told them did not know that
you could search in Nautilus, or did know that you could but search but
One thing mentioned earlier in the mailinglist, tough I seem unable to find
and quote it right here, is the function of the Mac OS X's application
switcher. Would this style work in the context of the Gnome-Shell?
In the usecase where the user only has one or two windows of the same
application ac
I'm trying to compile gnome-shell on an slightly elderly computer but
I'm hitting on a error trying to install/build with jhbuild. Here is
some system information along with the most recent calls from jhbuild.
Could someone help me to solve this Pango-gir error from make?
System:Host CompaqMi
t;
> As far is making this area known as a application/window switcher, it could
> slide up, as it does in the mockup, whenever a new window is opened.
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Rovanion Luckey
> wrote:
>>
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>> From:
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From: Rovanion Luckey
Date: 2009/12/30
Subject: Re: Re : interapplication communication
To: Nicolas de Fontenay
Switching between windows is probably the most used function of a DE.
The activities pane does a fairly good job of this, tough on a small
Minimizing windows does not work at the moment, they simply disappear
and that's confusing even for me. The stereotypical mom using gnome
shell will think that the minimize button closed her application.
What if pressing the minimize button made the window become small and
hide on free desktop spa
complexity of the required
>>> interface by
>>> reducing the number of choices; it would also make it possible
>>> to do
>>> some helpful effect like Compiz does already (i.e. every press
>>> of Tab
>>> causes the selected window to be moved forw
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From: Rovanion Luckey
Date: 2009/12/29
Subject: Re: Application Switcher
To: Carlos Martín Nieto
Yes I'm talking about countries in asia and all over the world. If you
wish only to look at the western world there are many countries in
eastern europ
I was using the application switcher in Gnome-shell thinking about how
much it made sense to have the application switcher to actually switch
inbetween applications, not windows. That's really besides the point
which is usability. The great thing about it is that it reinovates the
application switc
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