Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
> [deleted thread with various bits of hostility] I'm disappointed that this thread went so off track. We should honestly try to answer these questions instead of aggressively question people's work flows. There is more hostility that is warranted and we should strive to keep GNOME mailing lis

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Needle
Nope, not a troll. Just a longtime Linux user who just wonders why some developers make the choices they make. Maybe I'm too old to be able to change easily. On 09/27/2016 02:44 AM, Jean-Christophe Baptiste wrote: Hello, These criticisms are definitely not fair, I wonder if it is not a pure

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
> You can: > (a) start it an minimize it - it appears in the tray. >- or - > (b) have it start at startup. > > I honestly cannot see a problem to be solved. > > If it is running it appears in the tray underlined - that tells you it > is active. Trolling answer. > >> Also the tray ic

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
Le 27/09/2016 à 20:37, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : >>> Also, for email, the accounts can be setup in the control panel as >>> an online account. If an account is setup through there, then it >>> would certainly be nice to have GOA or something trigger >>> notifications for these accounts if an

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 16:05 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 15:58, Sam Bull wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 09:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: > > > > >

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > Also, for email, the accounts can be setup in the control panel as > > an online account. If an account is setup through there, then it > > would certainly be nice to have GOA or something trigger > > notifications for these accounts if an app is not open. Does that not happen? I am fairly

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
Le 27/09/2016 à 15:58, Sam Bull a écrit : > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 09:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: >>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: See this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_i

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 15:58, Sam Bull wrote: > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 09:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: > > > > See this thread: > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Sam Bull
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 09:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: > > > See this thread: > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_info_abou > > > t_ > > > legacy_traytopicons

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
Le 27/09/2016 à 15:42, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: >>> See this thread: >>> https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_info_about_ >>> legacy_traytopicons_plus_in/ >>> To achiev

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: > > See this thread: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_info_about_ > > legacy_traytopicons_plus_in/ > > To achieve this goal, all apps need to be redesigned. > After rea

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: > See this thread: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_info_about_legacy_traytopicons_plus_in/ > > To achieve this goal, all apps need to be redesigned. After reading the thread I still don't know what the replacement is. Just r

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
See this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_info_about_legacy_traytopicons_plus_in/ To achieve this goal, all apps need to be redesigned. Le 27/09/2016 à 12:52, Jan Niklas Hasse a écrit : > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 11:47, 0x90 wrote: >> Where is the man power to migra

Re: Notifications [Was: My gripes with Gnome Shell]

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
Then you did not read or understood my example with Lollypop. Or with KeepassX : do you think that it is reasonable to close / re-run this app, retyping the password OR to leave it open all the time so that it shows in the Dock (forcing you to go back to its native workspace) and in the activity

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Sam Bull
On Mon, 2016-09-26 at 15:57 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2016-09-26 at 12:38 -0700, Jeffrey Needle wrote: > > Two things about Gnome that just make it unusable for me.  First, > > the > > top panel needs to be more customizable.  I want the FULL date, > > not  > > just the month and

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:38:57PM -0700, Jeffrey Needle wrote: > Two things about Gnome that just make it unusable for me. First, the top > panel needs to be more customizable. I want the FULL date, not just the > month and day. I want a working weather app. The other thing is the > difficulty

Notifications [Was: My gripes with Gnome Shell]

2016-09-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 12:52 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 11:47, 0x90 wrote: > > Where is the man power to migrate or replace all these > > applications? > Migrate to what? There's no real alternative to the tray in Gtk > AFAIK. AppIndicator could work, but GNOME Shell do

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 11:47, 0x90 wrote: > Where is the man power to migrate or replace all these applications? Migrate to what? There's no real alternative to the tray in Gtk AFAIK. AppIndicator could work, but GNOME Shell doesn't even support it out of the box (only via an extension https:/

Notifications [Was: My gripes with Gnome Shell]

2016-09-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 11:47 +0200, 0x90 wrote: > My only concern is that it is too much in advance compared to the > status of the gtk application ecosystems. Many apps are not ready, > and I wonder if they will be some day. > As an example of ready app, there is the Lollypop music player. It > kee

Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

2016-09-27 Thread 0x90
Hello, These criticisms are definitely not fair, I wonder if it is not a pure troll. Gnome-shell is very functional and stable, I really enjoy it every day. My only concern is that it is too much in advance compared to the status of the gtk application ecosystems. Many apps are not ready, and I