On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 16:05 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 15:58, Sam Bull wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 09:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 13:44, 0x90 wrote: > > > > > See this thread: > > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/53d5kz/need_dev_info_ > > > > > abou > > > > > t_ > > > > > legacy_traytopicons_plus_in/ > > > > > To achieve this goal, all apps need to be redesigned. > > > > After reading the thread I still don't know what the > > > > replacement > > > > is. > > > > Just remove the tray icon? And run in the background without > > > > illustrating that to the user? > > > I don't know - this seems reasonable to me. If an application > > > has a > > > service component... just provide the service. As a user why do > > > I > > > care? There is no need for me to see something unless something > > > happens. > > > > Also, for email, the accounts can be setup in the control panel as > > an > > online account. If an account is setup through there, then it would > > certainly be nice to have GOA or something trigger notifications > > for these accounts if an app is not open. > > > > This would be similar to what the Ubuntu phone does with UOA, > > though > > this is more born out of the lifecycle requirement, that apps > > aren't > > allowed to run in the background. > > While it makes sense for some applications, like email, it's rather > confusing for something like an IRC client: I don't want it to run at > start up, but I also want to be able to let it run in the background > without a window. Without the tray I have NO idea if my IRC client is > currently running (without using `ps aux` or something like that).
You can: (a) start it an minimize it - it appears in the tray. - or - (b) have it start at startup. I honestly cannot see a problem to be solved. If it is running it appears in the tray underlined - that tells you it is active. > Also the tray icon also shows other stuff: For Dropbox / Seafile it > shows when it's currently syncing data by spinning arrows. A package could very well choose to contain a shell extension if it needs some persistent custom presentation - a path exists to solve that problem. Many don't bother, likely, because it is a rather trivial matter. How often do you care if something is synchronizing? It was one of the failures of GNOME-2 is that the toolbar actively promoted a kind of AD-HD; when there was work to be done. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
