Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, I see your point. I agree that we need a way to only show windows on the current workspace, although I'm not sure what the best way to implement it would be. I think the developers have said they have other plans for the window name in the panel, but I could see a hot corner working. Sa

Window switching problems and ideas

2009-12-19 Thread Stanisław Pitucha
Hi, I'd like to list my problems, but it might be a bit pointless to join the shouting in the thread this came from. So here's my (hopefully) well-defined proposal. On 18.12.2009 22:43, Owen Taylor wrote: > More interesting things to discuss: > > - In what cases does GNOME Shell work less we

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't see how Gnome-Shell fails on any of these. Firefox's download window is simple to find in the overview, besides you can always get to it from Firefox's menu - or put a button for it on the tool bar if you like. GIMP works fine - the only windows that show up in the overview are the actu

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Domen Vrankar wrote: Hy. Today I was thinking allot about the one desktop question posted at the top of this thread and noticed that even though I quite like to work with multiple workspaces since I started using gnome-shell, I still see something that is bothering more and more and is relat

Re: Programs that need root privileges

2009-12-19 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
That's a bug in gksu, the program responsible for starting applications as the root user. The problem is that it locks the whole screen while you type your password. Hopefully, I think it is to be changed to use PolicyKit for authentication, meaning that it would use the standard password dialog t

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Dylan McCall wrote: Someone a while back (I’m sorry, I forget who; lots of messages!) mentioned that the favourites section and the search box are expected for people who know what they are looking for, while the application browser is for discovering new stuff. To me, that makes some sense, s

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Jason Sauders
You speak about the overlay as being something new. This is something KDE has had implemented for quite a long time. Not only that, but you can customize which corner of the screen (or side of the screen) is the "active spot" to activate the overlay when prompted by the mouse movement. We don't

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Domen Vrankar
Hy. Today I was thinking allot about the one desktop question posted at the top of this thread and noticed that even though I quite like to work with multiple workspaces since I started using gnome-shell, I still see something that is bothering more and more and is related to that question. I'm u

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Dylan McCall
On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 12:44 +0530, mac_v wrote: ... > But saying that the user needs to use the keyboard to do an action > quicker is not very ideal. > > Both the keyboard-only and mouse-only users have to be able to do the > same action in the easiest/quickest possible way. And forcing either > u

Programs that need root privileges

2009-12-19 Thread Domen Vrankar
I was wondering if there were any plans regarding the behaviour of programs that need root privileges ( RootSudo or how root privileges window is called in Ubuntu) like for e.g. synaptic package manager? If you open such an application with drag and drop from activities menu it doesn't show anythi

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Juan Manuel Santos
On Friday 18 December 2009 21:54:10 hills wrote: > I really like the idea of browsing my applications, documents and places in > full-screen. There will be enough space to show big thumbnail and > metadata. The bigger the better :-) (Fitts's law). > A tiny comment on this. One of the main thing

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Samuel Arthur Wright Illingworth
I'm currently at work where I use Compiz for workspace switching (Cube or Wall, I love them both), and I just found myself /really/ wanting to quickly open a new workspace, which unfortunately is quite a task in Compiz, unless I write a script for it. So I thought I'd come here and cheer people up

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Danté Ashton
I do have a few other examples where the current GNOME-Shell would fail; FIrefox and it's separate download window. GIMP and it's multiple windows. MPlayer A Dock is impractical here, as all of them are currently incapable of showing me what's in the window. Unless we either have the classic

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread hills
"Getting out of your car to change the radio station" analogy makes some sense. Zoom out effect is distracting and aimless when user use only one workspace. My previous message [1] take some approach to remove left side panel so zoom out will be unnecessary. All non-running applications and non-

RE: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Pierre Wieser
> On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 17:43 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: > > > More interesting things to discuss: > > > > - In what cases does GNOME Shell work less well? > > > > - How could the GNOME Shell ideas be adapted and extended to > >work better in those cases? > > The root of problems might be t

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Miguel Branco
That's actually a very good idea: I rearrange the windows myself too. But is it enough to provide an alternative to the application switching method? I'm thinking in maximized applications, like a web-browser or open-office (I usually use them maximized). Personally I think the biggest problem is

RE: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 11:37 +0100 на 19.12.2009 (сб), Thorsten Wilms написа: > A taskbar is unnecessary, as long as there's enough to see of other > windows you want to switch to. So, would it be feasible to always make > sure this is the case? By clever placement. Plus showing the titlebar > of > a window that is com

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:56:20AM +0300, Денис Черемисов wrote: > Haven't you realized yet that is entirely bad idea about the current > gnome-shell? It both sucks to people who doesn't use workspace before (they > won't use them in this stuff), and for people who used it (they need _fixed_ > work

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Domen Vrankar
@Danté Ashton: I'm using gnome-shell at home most of the time ever since I heart about it when Ubuntu 9.10 came out. Since I'm used to working on 3 to 4 tasks at a time ( yes I don't like to turn off my computer and only put it in hibernation ) it felt natural to use one workspace for every task t

RE: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 17:43 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: > More interesting things to discuss: > > - In what cases does GNOME Shell work less well? > > - How could the GNOME Shell ideas be adapted and extended to >work better in those cases? The root of problems might be that you try to solve

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Ruben
I completely agree with you. The Ubuntu Netbook Remix approach looks attractive and is really useful: it gives the indication of what apps you're currently using on the workspace. That's what the shell lacks at this point. App launching is great the way it currently is, though I would like to s

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Johannes
Hi! OK, let's have a constructive discussion, no ranting... I have followed this taskbar discussion for quite long but have just recently been able to use gnome-shell on my netbook (still driver issues on the desktop computer) with the version included in Fedora 12. As far as I have seen from scr

Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

2009-12-19 Thread Денис Черемисов
Haven't you realized yet that is entirely bad idea about the current gnome-shell? It both sucks to people who doesn't use workspace before (they won't use them in this stuff), and for people who used it (they need _fixed_ workspace combination, not dynamic one). Guys, you better drop this idiotic a