Re: Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-16 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
All rigth all rigth, it just sounded like blame when people are talking about that _the problem_ is that nobody translates before string freeze. Anyway, to get back to the subject at hand. There are more than just one question in this. When we get mail on the list about changes in strings the reaso

Re: Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-16 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! OK, from developer point of view: > "Use comments" You know what you mean when you created the string and it is really difficult to estimate if the string is understandable for others. Developers only add comments when it is technical necessary, something like "translate the same as in prog

Re: Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-16 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
I don't quite agree with the conclusion here, that developers are not to blame at all. In my experience if developers would read the documentation on i18n [1]in the developer guide, especially the part about "Use comments" "Never split sentences" "Plurals" "Avoid markup wherever possible" and bes

Re: Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-15 Thread Leonardo Fontenelle
That's what we've being doing in Brazil, but I'm not sure smaller teams can do it. (Not that ours is large :) Leonardo Fontenelle http://leonardof.org 2008/2/15, Claudio Saavedra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > El vie, 15-02-2008 a las 10:34 -0300, Jonh Wendell escribió: > > > > > Indeed. Which makes

Re: Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-15 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El vie, 15-02-2008 a las 10:34 -0300, Jonh Wendell escribió: > > Indeed. Which makes me think if it's time to change some policies. > Either teams do start translating *before* the freeze (in order to > file bugs in time), or we should change the term 'freeze' by a new > one. IMHO, string change

Re: Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-15 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Sex, 2008-02-15 às 14:10 +0100, Johannes Schmid escreveu: > Well, I wouldn't blame developers that much. Many teams (besides the > really big) start translating not really before string-freeze and thus > those bug-reports come in after freeze. Developers are usually not > really aware of potent

Approving of string freeze breaks (was: Re: Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD')

2008-02-15 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > I also agree that the practics of approving general, not-so-critical > string freeze breaks is bad very bad. It seems that developers don't > think it's a time for mandatory freeze rather time to begin fixing > string problems. And that's because we approve all their requests to > break the

Fwd: String additions to 'gnome-keyring.HEAD'

2008-02-15 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
2008/2/15 Johannes Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! > > Am Freitag, den 15.02.2008, 13:14 +0100 schrieb Gil Forcada: > > since it's the beginning of the string freeze and the strings are easy > > to translate ... (drums) > > > > 2/2 ! > > I have no problem with this change but what I do not under