Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-12 Thread David Bolter
Possibly some related resources: Color deficiency simulator: http://www.visibone.com/colorblind/ another simulator: http://www.vischeck.com/ Color perception paper: http://www.4colorvision.com/files/colorcontrperf.htm#equations Color tool: http://www.colorfield.com/index.html Example color con

Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-12 Thread David Bolter
Possibly some related resources: Color deficiency simulator: http://www.visibone.com/colorblind/ another simulator: http://www.vischeck.com/ Color perception paper: http://www.4colorvision.com/files/colorcontrperf.htm#equations Color tool: http://www.colorfield.com/index.html Example color

Re: setting up wlan with orca

2006-10-13 Thread David Bolter
Ben, I have a very recent Ubuntu install on my laptop. I'm not able to address your concern regarding nothing appearing in the wpa key box but there is another potential thing you might have to look out for... I have found it very difficult to configure Ubuntu networking to use encryption, a

harmonizing on-screen keyboard progress

2006-10-24 Thread David Bolter
Henrik, All, Hi. I'm just wondering if it might be helpful for everyone involved or interested in free/open-source on-screen keyboard (or alternative input software) development to get together in one place or on one phone call to educate each other on our plans and ideas for best serving our u

Re: Accessability Interfaces

2006-11-08 Thread David Bolter
Hi Steve, The at-spi hides nasty stuff like CORBA behind an API. In early days we used the cspi bindings (for C), but we should all now use the normative C library libspi. I imagine you are most interested in python bindings -- which I haven't used (yet). Note, gok hasn't migrated from cspi

yelp gok hack?

2006-11-10 Thread David Bolter
Hi All, Yelp has a function called "timeout_update_gok". This sounds like a temporary stop-gap that might have been forgotten. Ideally should the fix should be in mozilla (if not already)? http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=file%3Ayelp+timeout_update_gok&btnG=Search+Code Can anyone shed any l

Re: yelp gok hack?

2006-11-10 Thread David Bolter
Bill Haneman wrote: > David Bolter wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Yelp has a function called "timeout_update_gok". This sounds like a >> temporary stop-gap that might have been forgotten. Ideally should the >> fix should be in mozilla (if not already)? &g

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread David Bolter
Hi Henrik, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > Brian Cameron wrote: > >> I suppose it might be possible to code an on-screen keyboard directly >> into GDM, but this might be more work than you think. Note GOK supports >> "dwell" mode so that it works for users who can only manipulate a single >> butto

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-08 Thread David Bolter
Hi Brian, You are doing a great job on gdm and thanks for keeping tabs on us AT folks :-) and ultimately for keeping the end users in mind. I'm going to mostly repeat my response to a related email since it is relevant here. Here I'm responding to your comment: "It would be nice if the GOK/Or

Announcing GOK v1.2.1!

2007-01-19 Thread David Bolter
== * What is GOK? == GOK enables users to control their desktops without having to rely on a standard keyboard or mouse. It includes a suite of on-screen keyboards as well as dynamic keyboard generation. Please see http://www.gok.ca/ for details. ==

Re: Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-01 Thread David Bolter
That was painful to read. David Peter Parente wrote: > Hello all, > > Yesterday, IBM decided to change strategies with respect to GNOME > accessibility: > > http://www-03.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer > > Under this new plan, IBM is no longer supporting development of LSR, > Accercise

Re: [g-a-devel] Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-12 Thread David Bolter
Also if even part of it becomes public for now would be a great help. Like any planning, roadmap, schedule docs. Is there a wiki? a channel? cheers, David On 12-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Willie Walker wrote: > Thanks Olaf! Does this mean that anyone wishing to consider > collaborating with Trol

Re: AT-SPI build

2007-07-12 Thread David Bolter
Diego, Yes, the AT-SPI is what you want. I haven't tried using the AT-SPI without X but it would be great to know how far you can get with that configuration. What are you building? cheers, David Bolter Diego A. Fons wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to build my own accessi

Re: Tapir predictive keyboard

2007-11-28 Thread David Bolter
Looks slick. Is this already going to become part of GNOME via Dasher? cheers, D Steve Lee wrote: > I thought I'd (re)introduce the Tapir 'OSK' program that features > disambiguation (sometimes incorrectly called prediction) similar in > operation to mobile phone entry systems. It has been develope

Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-17 Thread David Bolter
This is exactly what we need. I'm raising my hand. cheers, David Brian Cameron wrote: > The GNOME Foundation Board of Directors recognizes the importance > of Accessibility in the GNOME desktop. To help foster a more > clear and positive vision, the board thinks it would be helpful > to form an

gnome a11y documentation Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-18 Thread David Bolter
Steve, The accessibility docs are begging for a refresh/rewrite... if you can find the time ;) I'm sure you'd do an awesome job. cheers, David Steve Lee wrote: > Nice one, and I'm happy to contribute. > > Will: FYI re docs, there should be an article on GNOME a11y, AT-SPI, > pyatspi, accercise

Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-19 Thread David Bolter
Hi Aaron, Well put and I do not enjoy committees that are closed and/or don't seem to be useful. That said, I don't think this committee need be closed. Ideally I'd like to see someone like Will be given ownership of the big picture thinking, or making sure the big picture thinking happens, and

Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-20 Thread David Bolter
Hi Will, Looks good. Two indirectly related things came to mind as I read your email. Can we: 1) create an IRC channel for more interactive discussions about gnome-a11y (or linux-a11y, or unix-a11y, or foss-a11y) 2) be mindful of potential KDE resources (harmonization). Maybe some stuff belong

Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-21 Thread David Bolter
Steve Lee wrote: >> 3) Brainstorming / developing improvements that push the envelope in >> the user experience. It's great to have a set of familiar assistive >> technologies for people to use today when migrating to GNOME from >> other platforms. But a benefit of developing on an open stack with

a11y research and innovation (Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee)

2007-12-21 Thread David Bolter
Peter Parente wrote: >> Choice quote: "we have succumbed to the tyranny of the popular, the >> typical, the average, or the norm"... but let's not! We should be able >> to go so much farther and faster in FOSS land... >> > > Simply getting together to talk in an open forum helps spark new >

Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-21 Thread David Bolter
Gilles Casse wrote: > Peter Parente wrote: > >> A custom navigation app could make use of >> either for stepping through directions en route. >> > > The Neo1973 (OpenMoko) is also another possible platform. I have > recently integrated on the Neo, Navit (navigation software) with speech

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-24 Thread David Bolter
Hi All, I just wanted to explain my lack on involvement recently. I'm on holiday until mid-February so that I can have quality time with my new baby girl and her 5 year old sister. I'm still very passionate about the new momentum in GNOME a11y. I'll be back. cheers, David Willie Walker wrot

Re: Bug triage

2008-01-28 Thread David Bolter
If someone wants to take a crack at triaging the GOK bugs please do help! I'm still on "holiday", but will try my best to find time to work with someone to prioritize GOK bugs. It may turn out that we (GNOMErs) focus efforts on a new OSK, but even in that case it would be good to keep GOK viabl

Re: Bug triage

2008-01-29 Thread David Bolter
Brian, Yes. Excellent point, but I was waiting to see where the community thought we should spend energy in the OSK/alt-input space before making the request for a co-maintainer. cheers, David Brian Cameron wrote: > David/Willie: > > >> I'm also looking for a co-maintainer and am happy to me

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve?

2008-02-12 Thread David Bolter
This is all so great! I'm EST and for now can be available whenever my newborn isn't crying ;) I agree it would be really great to make a11y testing part of the process. Maybe we could collect the test batteries from the various distros and look for gaps; essentially to provide an uber test mat

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve?

2008-02-14 Thread David Bolter
Willie Walker wrote: > Thanks Francesco! > > >>> In addition, I would also like to raise the idea of making a proposal >>> to the GNOME release team that a11y become part of the new module >>> proposal process. I'm curious what people think of that idea and who >>> would be willing to help test

Re: Exciting news: funding coming our way!

2008-02-17 Thread David Bolter
accessibility tasks we find really important. As a result, they are > now providing funding to get the work done. This is FANTASTIC news! > > More details will be coming out very soon (this week?), but the GNOME > Board has requested that we let the GNOME accessibility community kn

[Fwd: [laptop-accessibility] An Update about Speech Synthesis for Sugar]

2008-02-18 Thread David Bolter
FYI --- Begin Message --- Hi, It s great to see many other developers sharing the idea we have been trying to implement right within the Sugar Environment. We have been working on integrating speech-synthesis into Sugar for quite some time now. You can check out our ideas here : http://wiki.la

Re: CONFIRMED: #a11y IRC meeting Thu 21-Feb UTC 21:00-22:00

2008-02-21 Thread David Bolter
Willie Walker wrote: > Hi All: > > What: IRC in the #a11y room in irc.gnome.org > When: Thu 21-Feb UTC 21:00-22:00 > > Given the responses I've received, this meeting is confirmed. My > apologies for those of you who had requests to move this meeting around. > It's really hard to accommodate e

Re: Quick notes on the mechanics of the AT-SPI infrastructure

2008-02-22 Thread David Bolter
Will, Thanks for sharing. I wish I'd made my notes public over the years... especially since I tend to lose them. I think it is a great idea to get this stuff on the wiki. Thanks again. cheers, David Willie Walker wrote: > Hey All: > > Well...a few people have queried about how the AT-SPI i

Re: Thoughts on magnification

2008-02-22 Thread David Bolter
Hi Will, Willie Walker wrote: > Hi All: > > This is to follow up on the nice IRC discussion we had in IRC yesterday > regarding magnification. I think the main points were: > > o The COMPOSITE extension opens the world for us to do lots and lots of > really cool manipulation of what's being dis

Re: Thoughts on speech

2008-02-22 Thread David Bolter
Hi Jan, Jan Buchal wrote: >> "WW" == Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > WW> Hi All: Great IRC meeting yesterday. Thanks everyone for > WW> attending and participating. Here's some notes I took regarding > WW> speech: > > WW> * While it may not be

Re: Dasher project needs volunteers

2008-02-26 Thread David Bolter
GOK too. We need more bodies in the alt-input and OSK space. cheers, David Steve Lee wrote: > I don't know if it is common knowledge but the amazing Dasher project > is in need of some TLC, particularly maintainers and developers, but > all contributions would be most welcome. > > http://eduspac

Re: Do we have an item for moving AT-SPI to DBus in the outreach program?

2008-02-28 Thread David Bolter
If I can find funding, do we have people in the community to (help) do it? D Willie Walker wrote: > Hi Li: > > Under the "AT-SPI on DBus" section on the GetInvolved page, there's a > few links to Rob Taylor and Mark Duffman's wonderful work on the > feasibility study. They did an awesome job an

Re: Thoughts on speech

2008-03-06 Thread David Bolter
Will, That sounds very reasonable to me. Can you start it? :) cheers, D Willie Walker wrote: > Hi All: > > This speech issue is obviously one filled with passion and high > expectations. I think our ultimate end goal here is to find a solution > that works well and fits within the various co

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Applications

2008-03-07 Thread David Bolter
Hi Ronny. I would recommend the Orca screen reader for Linux. http://live.gnome.org/Orca Note: I've cc'ed the gnome accessibility community. cheers, David Ronny Andrade Parra wrote: > Hi everyone, my name is Ronny Andrade, we are starting a project in my > university in which we are going to w

Re: Dasher

2008-03-19 Thread David Bolter
Before we completely leave this thread... Does anyone have any ideas on how to collect accurate usage data for adaptive input programs? Keep in mind that the time taken to compose an email can be quite lengthy for some GNOME users who might be operating their desktop perhaps via a puff switch..

Re: Dasher

2008-03-19 Thread David Bolter
Steve Lee wrote: > On 19/03/2008, David Bolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Before we completely leave this thread... Does anyone have any ideas on >> how to collect accurate usage data for adaptive input programs? >> > > Are you talking predictiv

Re: Dasher

2008-03-19 Thread David Bolter
Thanks Janina. Excellent point. And it is at the edges where innovation often happens. For the record, my concern about knowing the number of GOK users is that if there are resource decisions to be made that might impact them, it would be good to know the potential damage. It worries me that I

Re: Time for another IRC meeting?

2008-03-25 Thread David Bolter
I try to hang on that channel daily for a least a few hours. D Steve Lee wrote: > +1 > > On 25/03/2008, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey All: >> >> Wow - these past few months really wore me out. There were a lot of >> deadlines all over the place, and they all seemed to hap

Re: unable to enter password with osk into policykit

2008-04-03 Thread David Bolter
Pointer grabs are horrible things. We've had to work around this by requiring GOK users to use a non-core pointing device, which has led to lots of confusion over the years. If there is going to be a lobby against pointer grabs I will gladly join. cheers, David Francesco Fumanti wrote: > Hell

Re: unable to enter password with osk into policykit

2008-04-04 Thread David Bolter
bugs.freedesktop.org, or even against both? > Yes, perhaps, or ask in the Ubuntu bug that someone file upstream (whoever owns policykit). > > > At 12:21 PM -0400 4/3/08, David Bolter wrote: > >> Pointer grabs are horrible things. We've had to work around this by &g

Re: Questions about gnome-mag + orca

2008-04-11 Thread David Bolter
Kristian Lyngstøl wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Having said all that, we have a task for "GNOME Outreach Program: >> Accessibility" for someone to get paid to help take the magnification >> solution beyond where we are now. If someone

Re: Nokia to fund D-Bus based accessibility

2008-04-25 Thread David Bolter
Janina, it is all so awesomely cool. Thanks for all your efforts behind the scenes. cheers, David Janina Sajka wrote: > This truly is wonderful news. I personally can't wait to take some of > those KDE apps for a spin with Orca, and I expect there will be KDE > based AT that will now be able to

Re: gok in GNOME 2.24 roadmap

2008-04-25 Thread David Bolter
There is nobody slotted for this work yet. cheers, David Francesco Fumanti wrote: > Hello, > > I have seen on the roadmap of GNOME 2.24 that gok is listed for a > possible migration to python. > > Does anybody know who will be doing that work? (Maybe that I can > exchange a few ideas with him.)

Developer Education in Accessibility

2008-05-30 Thread David Bolter
Hi All, We now have a freshly installed wiki resource where we can collaborate on building educational materials. This was spurred along be the observation that we are seeing more and more blogs and tutorials related to ARIA and DHTML accessibility. Perhaps it makes sense to work together on s

Re: Developer Education in Accessibility

2008-05-30 Thread David Bolter
Hi Aaron, Thanks for the organization suggestions. Note to all: my hope is that this site is created by all of us from the very beginning, and is something we 'own' together. That's why it looks so raw right now. cheers, David Aaron Leventhal wrote: > Hi David, > > For organization how about

Re: WebKit external dependency update

2008-06-12 Thread David Bolter
Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 02 juin 2008, à 16:33 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Hi Alp, Le dimanche 01 juin 2008, à 14:05 +0100, Alp Toker a écrit : Hi, WebKit/GTK+ now has AT-SPI accessibility support using ATK as requested by the Yelp developers, which was laid out as a requiremen

Re: ASUS Eee PC

2008-06-29 Thread David Bolter
Hi Kris, It sounds like out-of-the-box there isn't much in the way of a11y. But some say it is simple to install orca, see for example: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Accessibility I haven't got an eeepc myself so can't confirm. cheers, David Kris Van Hees wrote: Hi, Has anyone here l

GOK release holdup

2008-06-30 Thread David Bolter
Hi all, There has been some important work done recently on GOK, and I would like to roll up a release. Mysteriously, gok's 'make distcheck' is failing. Unfortunately my auto-fu is rusty. It seems that the gok-1.x.y temporary directory gets built and while in gok-1.x.y/_build, attempts to s

Re: GOK release holdup

2008-06-30 Thread David Bolter
Thanks Brian, unfortunately I am already using 0.37.1 (I got excited there for a minute) cheers, David Brian Cameron wrote: David: Are you using intltool version 0.40? I had a similar problem with intltool-merge.in, intltool-update.in, and intltool-extract.in not being created, and causing "

Re: GOK release holdup

2008-06-30 Thread David Bolter
Hi Patrick, Sure. Just to be clear, do you want the temporary build directory? Shall I send to the list or just to yourself? cheers, David Patrick Welche wrote: Would you like to tarup the recalcitrant directory and make it available for download so we can take a look? Cheers, Patrick ___

GOK 1.4.0 released!

2008-07-15 Thread David Bolter
What is GOK? == GOK enables users to control their free desktops without having to rely on a standard keyboard or mouse. It includes a suite of on-screen keyboards as well as dynamic keyboard generation. Please see http://www.gok.ca/ for details. What's changed for GOK v1.3.7?

GOK module maintainership

2008-07-21 Thread David Bolter
ut to the helpful people who meet regularly in #a11y. THANKS! cheers, David Bolter ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

Re: GOPA reviews at upcoming #a11y meetings

2008-08-06 Thread David Bolter
Awesome. Just a heads up, I'll be on vacation from the 11th to the 22nd; but I'll try to make the #a11y meetings. go GOPA! cheers, David Willie Walker wrote: Hey All: We have three GOPA (GNOME Outreach Program: Accessibility) tasks in full swing right now: Kristian Lyngstøl doing magnificati

gok-l...@gnome.org is alive!

2008-08-07 Thread David Bolter
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gok-list cheers, David ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

GOK 2.23.91 released

2008-08-29 Thread David Bolter
What is GOK? == GOK enables users to control their free desktops without having to rely on a standard keyboard or mouse. It includes a suite of on-screen keyboards as well as dynamic keyboard generation. Please see http://www.gok.ca/ for details. What's changed for GOK v2.23.91?

Re: Will not be present at next week's meeting.

2008-08-30 Thread David Bolter
My regrets as well. I have a conference call all day Monday (which also happens to be a holiday in Canada). cheers, David Steve Lee wrote: me neither - covering the end of school holidays. Steve 2008/8/30 Francesco Fumanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello, As I have another appointment during

Re: A11Y IRC Meeting Minutes 200800901

2008-09-01 Thread David Bolter
Thanks Jeff. Sanka, thanks very much for your attendance today. My apologies on the timing... I hope to IRC-meet with you next week! cheers, David Jeff Cai wrote: Attendees: suseROCKs, Li, JeffCai, mgorse, Tim Miao etc. 1. Since most of people didn't join the meeting, Sanka will discuss Ev

Re: Award for GOPA

2008-10-02 Thread David Bolter
Congratulations to everyone, especially the crowd on #a11y IRC! This is a great way to get people thinking more about FOSS accessibility. I wonder... can the people behind the program get some recognition for their affiliate corporations (profit or non-profit)? I mean in addition to the official

Re: Why ui grabbing in direct selection mode of gok?

2008-10-18 Thread David Bolter
Hi Francesco, Thanks for raising this. I think it is important to consider the difference between interacting with GOK keys, and interacting directly with the interface. Here's some reasons I can see for leaving ui grabbing enabled for the direct selection access method. * GOK keys can be bigger

Re: Ang: Ang. Re: [GOK] Why ui grabbing in direct selection mode of gok?

2008-10-21 Thread David Bolter
Hi Mats, all, As a waning GOK maintainer, I'm delighted at the thoughtful criticisms I'm reading about GOK as I've long agreed with a lot of them. Please see http://live.gnome.org/Gok (particularly Zero-conf GOK) for more of the same. I'd love to see us capture all the good ideas by adding them to

GNOME Accessibility on by default, and Firefox

2008-10-22 Thread David Bolter
Hi all, Firefox (and other apps) provides accessibility support conditionally. This means that on GNOME it always runs a little slower for everyone, and eats up extra resources. I wonder if we could have GNOME accessibility turned on, but a separate setting that Firefox can check on GNOME to tell

Re: GNOME Accessibility on by default, and Firefox

2008-10-22 Thread David Bolter
This is a common pattern. I hear it is also true for other things in FF like dom mutation events only fire if there is a listener... makes a lot of sense. A tree should only fall in the forest if someone is listening. D Aaron Leventhal wrote: > Mario, on Windows we use lazy instantiation. Th

Re: GNOME Accessibility on by default, and Firefox

2008-10-23 Thread David Bolter
y isn't needed. > > Please, add lazy instantiation for accessibility. Would it fit to do > this in the D-BUS AT-SPI migration project? > > - Aaron > > > On 10/22/2008 8:35 PM, David Bolter wrote: >> This is a common pattern. I hear it is also true for other things in FF &g

Re: GNOME Accessibility on by default, and Firefox

2008-10-25 Thread David Bolter
Jason White wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 05:22:35PM -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > > >> Note that I'm not necessarily encouraging or supporting the current >> you-get-it-or-you-don't behavior of GNOME. I'd much prefer NOT to have >> a gconf setting to enable accessibility, and I would pr

Instantiating Firefox A11y on GNOME

2009-01-16 Thread David Bolter
Hi all, Please correct me if I'm wrong (and I hope I am), but I think distros are still having a bit of a headache getting Firefox accessibility to start up. I personally am using the workaround Steve gave us here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460926#c4 on my install of Intrepid (

[Fwd: [oats-sig] New assistive technology open source project. eViacam]

2009-01-21 Thread David Bolter
Uhm... Flavio? Thoughts? D --- Begin Message --- Hi guys, My name is Cesar Mauri. Since 2003 I'm working with machine vision and alternative computer access close to the people of the Cerebral Palsy Association in Tarragona (Spain). I've just launched an open source project called Enable Viacam

Re: WebKit a11y hack fest?

2009-02-25 Thread David Bolter
I can offer to be on a channel, depending on time/date. cheers, David Willie Walker wrote: > My idea situation is this: > > 1) On the WebKit side: people that know the WebKit a11y code and who > can also help us compile WebKit and run the sample WebKit apps. > > 2) On our side: people that can com

Re: WebKit a11y hack fest?

2009-02-25 Thread David Bolter
ith the WebKit folks > working on WebKit a11y? > > Will > > David Bolter wrote: >> I can offer to be on a channel, depending on time/date. >> >> cheers, >> David >> Willie Walker wrote: >>> My idea situation is this: >>> >>> 1

Re: WebKit a11y hack fest?

2009-03-03 Thread David Bolter
there, but it still has ways to go. Also, I believe for >> some of this to fully work, VoiceOver needs to be adapted as well. >> For example, more complex widgets like tab panels, trees, grids etc. >> don't get recognized. Sliders are recognizedhalf-way (the fact

Re: dwell selection?

2005-02-01 Thread David Bolter
ified this myself. Olaf Richard, it would be great to know if you are successful using GOK with KMousetool. It might be the case that you would want to change to "Direct" mode while using KMousetool... good luck, David Bolter GOK ___ gnom

gok 1.0 is here!

2005-02-24 Thread David Bolter
n (no) Simos Xenitellis (el) Takeshi AIHANA (ja) Tino Meinen (nl) Vladimir Petkov (bg) ÃÂygimantas BeruÃïka (lt) ÃâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂàÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà(sr) CVS Contributions == Maintainers: David Bolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Major: Chris Ridpath <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Question: videos about gesture steering and GOK

2005-03-08 Thread David Bolter
Hi Michael, Great to hear of your interest in the mighty GOK. I'm not aware of the term gesture steering as it might apply to GOK. GOK is an on-screen keyboard suite. The keys do not move around like the letters and words in Dasher. There are many ways GOK users can select keys on the GOK keybo

Re: Using Gok, IDEA

2005-05-18 Thread David Bolter
Jason, To understand your idea/question, I need to know more details. Are you talking about the function keys F1 through F12? The GOK compose keyboard usually defaults (at least in english locales) to redisplaying the keyboard described by the x driver -- in other words it should already contai

Re: GOK Feature suggestion

2005-05-18 Thread David Bolter
Very clear request thanks :-) Please see: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304699 Note: we should move this thread to gnome-accessibility-devel in future replies. cheers, David Jason Brower wrote: I have a friend that has a hard time typing as fast as her friends while online. I use a t

Re: gok editor

2005-07-20 Thread David Bolter
hja, The editor is not a polished tool but has seen some improvement in both window size, and functionality with the patch I posted recently to: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139379 More below: hja wrote: Hi there, Downloaded 1.0.5 as a Debian Package. Trying out the editor. It

Re: Reorganising accessibility features in gnome (suggestion)

2005-08-19 Thread David Bolter
Possibly orthogonal... Maybe we need a wizard? (Also, just a note that as decades pass there seems to be a movement/evolution of "assistive technology" features into mainstream use. I think we should encourage this wherever possible. It would be a shame to see a user leaning forward squinting

Re: How GOK able to get all the contacts in Evolution ?

2005-10-11 Thread David Bolter
Hi Nagappan, GOK uses different algorithms for squeezing information out of applications. at-poke is really a tool for describing what the currently selected widget/component/item, and is not supposed to do more than that. cheers, David Nagappan wrote: Hi, If I select some address book

Re: [g-a-devel] Unable to run latest CVS snapshot of orca.

2005-12-08 Thread David Bolter
Sometimes if I have exited X abruptly and am having trouble logging back in to the desktop... I follow these steps: 1. log in as root to a safe shell 2. bonobo-slay 3. rm -rf /tmp/orbit* 4. exit These seems to reset things. D Bill Haneman wrote: Answer is "yes", because at-spi-registryd has

Re: detailed review of GOK

2005-12-12 Thread david . bolter
Hi Bill, Henrik... I have minor comments: Quoting Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Henrik: > > The reason that StickyKeys is needed is not only because of general key > combinations like the one you mention (Control-Alt-X) but also because > of the interaction with CapsLock, etc. In g

Re: Testing plan

2005-12-15 Thread David Bolter
/mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list -- ~~David Bolter ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

Re: Testing plan

2005-12-15 Thread David Bolter
Henrik, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: David Bolter wrote: We are happy to add authors to: http://larswiki.atrc.utoronto.ca/wiki Perhaps you should consider opening it up as an actual wiki. I think that would encourage more people to contribute. I'm involved in running several Moin wiki

Re: gok usage

2006-01-11 Thread David Bolter
Hi Steph, Thanks for your email, I try to respond below: S. ancelot wrote: Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to act on gok behavour. I only actiovated the keyboard compose fonction. I encountered following problems : 1) gok window appears each time I open a new application. I would l

Re: Design of On-screen Keyboard

2006-04-07 Thread David Bolter
GOK uses GTK+. You might want to consider contributing to the GOK project? Either way, best of luck with your work! On-screen keyboard access could always benefit from more attention. Please keep in touch if you make good progress. cheers, David 王鹏 wrote: > OK,thanks for all! > I read some book

Re: Common AT config panel

2006-04-24 Thread David Bolter
Small tangent... Brian Cameron wrote: Henrik: I do not think that this completely solve the "how do I set my accessibility preferences when I can't do anything until the preferences are set up." Perhaps a set of hotkeys are necessary to launch the different accessibility tools so that a user

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Accessibility Summer of Code projects

2006-05-05 Thread David Bolter
Peter Korn wrote: Hi Henrik, Cool stuff. For the on-screen keyboard, please consider doing something like "gok --simple" (assuming folks like David Bolter agree). Yes. This is difficult though, since I can understand both sides of the fence here. My biased (gok maintainer) opini

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Accessibility Summer of Code projects

2006-05-05 Thread David Bolter
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: David Bolter wrote: Peter Korn wrote: Hi Henrik, Cool stuff. For the on-screen keyboard, please consider doing something like "gok --simple" (assuming folks like David Bolter agree). Yes. This is difficult though, since I can understand

Re: Summer of Code: Simple On-screen Keyboard

2006-05-26 Thread David Bolter
Hi Chris, Have a look at gok_main_create_window in: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gok/gok/main.c?annotate=1.191 Another thing you might consider is making your window a docked window. This can really help with screen real estate issues as well as focus issues. We made docking optional in GOK.

Re: Can GOK work with autocompletion?

2006-06-02 Thread david . bolter
Hi guys. Technically I'm on holiday today. I think we could choose an existing event (or propose a new one) for notification regarding this... and GOK could create a key representing the current app-autocompletion. Nice idea guys! cheers, D Quoting Peter Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Evan, >