I haven't spoken with any Safari/Webkit devs in a long while :( http://mindforks.blogspot.com/2009/02/aria-user-agent-implementation-task.html
cheers, D Willie Walker wrote: > Hey All: > > There are at least two things of importance: > > 1) How complete and accurate is the WebKit support for AT-SPI? > 2) How complete and accurate is the WebKit support for ARIA? > > We definitely need both. > > So...let's talk about the hackfest some more. Who can help us get in > touch with the WebKit folks that can make changes and checkins to the > WebKit sources, and when are people available? BTW, I'm thinking > about doing this as an online thing rather than face-to-face unless > there happens to be an opportunity for us all to get together (e.g., > CSUN). > > Will > > > Jonas Klink wrote: >> Yes, I think this is a good idea. A first step that would be very >> valuable for contributors to WebKit ARIA would be to just have an >> overview of what is done, what's being implemented, and what's up for >> grabs. >> >> - Jonas >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Marco Zehe >> <marco.z...@googlemail.com <mailto:marco.z...@googlemail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I just ran a few codetalks.org <http://codetalks.org> tests using >> VoiceOver and Safari 4 beta on Mac OS. Like David said, basic ARIA >> support is there, but it still has ways to go. Also, I believe for >> some of this to fully work, VoiceOver needs to be adapted as well. >> For example, more complex widgets like tab panels, trees, grids etc. >> don't get recognized. Sliders are recognizedhalf-way (the fact that >> they're horizontal is conveyed, but the slider is "unknown"). >> >> Marco >> >> Am 25.02.2009 um 15:53 schrieb David Bolter: >> >> >> We could start a conversation on >> http://groups.google.ca/group/aria-ua-impl (?) -- but we might >> want to >> have a time window in mind. >> >> Safari now has some ARIA support... does anyone know if that is >> upstream? >> >> cheers, >> David >> >> Willie Walker wrote: >> >> Thanks David! Can you also get us in touch with the WebKit >> folks >> working on WebKit a11y? >> >> Will >> >> David Bolter wrote: >> >> I can offer to be on a channel, depending on time/date. >> >> cheers, >> David >> Willie Walker wrote: >> >> My idea situation is this: >> >> 1) On the WebKit side: people that know the WebKit >> a11y code and who >> can also help us compile WebKit and run the sample >> WebKit apps. >> >> 2) On our side: people that can compile the WebKit >> code and who are >> familiar with AT-SPI as well as what Gecko exposes >> via the AT-SPI. >> Those involved should also be able to run >> accerciser, run Orca, etc. >> We may also look to Eitan to help us with >> Speclenium. >> >> The main goals would be: >> >> 1) Get an idea of where WebKit a11y is at. >> >> 2) Help GNOME folks figure out how to build/test >> WebKit a11y. >> >> 3) Help train the WebKit folks on using a11y tools >> to test their >> implementation and learn what is expected. Ideally, >> the process will >> result in the WebKit folks getting a better >> understanding of a11y and >> getting more information to test/debug their a11y >> implementation. >> This is the optimal way to help close the feedback >> loop, IMO. >> >> Will >> >> Bryen wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 08:48 -0500, Willie Walker >> wrote: >> >> Hey All: >> >> I know we're working on a hack fest for >> GNOME a11y issues, which is >> an awesome thing. One thing that is getting >> horrible attention, >> however, is WebKit accessibility. In fact, >> accessibility is one of >> the things preventing WebKit from being >> accepted into GNOME. >> >> The WebKit folks have been making fixes, but >> we've not been very >> responsive in testing them. I wonder what >> people's thoughts are >> about setting aside a day to try to >> coordinate time with the WebKit >> folks to try to do a virtual hackfest for >> WebKit a11y specifically >> for GNOME? >> >> Will >> __ >> >> I think this is a great idea, especially in >> showing that we want to >> step >> up to the plate in resolving the impasse. >> >> One question I have. What type of testing do >> you have in mind? Who >> would be the testers and what would they need to >> have in order to >> provide good testing results? >> >> I think finding the proper testers for a11y >> stuff is always a >> challenge >> and I want to make sure we have adequate people >> around on that day, >> whatever designated day we all settle upon. >> >> Bryen Yunashko >> openSUSE Board Member >> openSUSE-GNOME Team Member >> GNOME-A11y Team Member >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list >> gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org >> <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list >> gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org >> <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list >> gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org >> <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list >> gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org >> <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-accessibility-list mailing list > gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
