Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-06-05 Thread Steve Lee
Excellent. That bugged me if I waited after power up before logging on but I couldn't repro on demand. I discussed with Ubuntu (Luke?) but we got nowhere so really pleased it's been fixed. Way cool I have no other issues with a11y on all the time. ;-) -- Steve Lee -- Open Source Assistive Technol

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-06-04 Thread Jason White
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 04:28:04PM -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > Now that this bug has been fixed for 2.24, we may have gotten rid of one > of the last remaining barriers to enabling a11y by default: > >http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524263 This is great news. Thanks to all involv

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-06-04 Thread Willie Walker
Now that this bug has been fixed for 2.24, we may have gotten rid of one of the last remaining barriers to enabling a11y by default: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524263 Will Peter Korn wrote: > Hey Willie, > > Regarding #5 below - enabling accessibility on the desktop: I think

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-05 Thread Peter Korn
Hey Willie, Regarding #5 below - enabling accessibility on the desktop: I think it is worth asking the question whether we are ready to have desktop accessibility support on by default. It takes more memory, so we certainly want to allow folks to turn it off if they don't need it. And in th

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-05 Thread Willie Walker
I agree that things are a little confusing right now. I'm not sure I've fully understood/appreciated the motivation for why things are the way they currently are. This might be a good opportunity to clarify, improve, or both. :-) I think there are a bunch of different problems to think about:

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-03 Thread Steve Lee
2008/5/3 Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think this "support a11y on multi-user servers for users who may have > different a11y needs" is an important use case that should be addressed > before a general solution be implemented into the GNOME desktop. +1 An obvious use case is inclusive

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-03 Thread Li Yuan
Matthias Clasen 写道: > - We still don't seem to have a solution for ensuring the a11y modules > are loaded when any a11y tools are configured to run in the session ? > Ie the "enable a11y" checkbox sits on another capplet, and has no idea > that a bunch of a11y tools have been started in the preferr

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-03 Thread Brian Cameron
Matthias: > Imo an approach like the one taken by Jon McCann in the new gdm a11y > dialog (see http://live.gnome.org/GDM/Screenshots ) is much more > straightforward and we should look at doing something similar inside > the session. I agree that the new dialog is a big step forward. It is a g

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-03 Thread Steve Lee
2008/5/3 Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The categorisation is presumably by the type of disability that they > assist with... The disadvantage of that is that often a technology will serve several needs, even some not associated with disability at all. E.g want hi contrast in high backgroun

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-03 Thread Calum Benson
On 3 May 2008, at 01:08, Matthias Clasen wrote: > - What is the benefit of the somewhat forced categorization into > 'visual' and 'mobility' ? How is orca a 'visual' tool ? I always > thought it was a screen reader... The categorisation is presumably by the type of disability that they assist

Re: [g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-03 Thread Steve Lee
On 03/05/2008, Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Imo an approach like the one taken by Jon McCann in the new gdm a11y > dialog (see http://live.gnome.org/GDM/Screenshots ) is much more > straightforward and we should look at doing something similar inside > the session. I like the

[g-a-devel] startup of a11y tools

2008-05-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
Hey guys, I've looked today at what it would take us to make the a11y tools that were running on the login screen carry over into the session, and I'm coming away somewhat disillusioned about the state of our a11y support... Here are some of the issues I found while quickly looking at the a11y ta