Re: Antw: Re: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread baptista
Dear Emanuel, Here are a few comments that may help your way through the literature already pointed out by others. Most of your questions concern temporal/kinetic aspects (interchange times, etc) and the answer to them is quite simple: constant-pH MD methods are intended to produce a collec

Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread Gerrit Groenhof
> > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:01:00 +0200 > From: "Emanuel Peter" > Subject: Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations > To: > Message-ID: <4e675cfc02f100014...@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; ch

Antw: Re: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread Emanuel Peter
SMA. >>> João Henriques 07.09.11 13.09 Uhr >>> Why don't you read the papers associated with the link everyone keeps sending you!!! Stop it with the autistic behavior. http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Constant_pH_Simulation Here is the main paper regarding the CpH-MD method I'm curre

Re: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread João Henriques
Why don't you read the papers associated with the link everyone keeps sending you!!! Stop it with the autistic behavior. http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Constant_pH_Simulation Here is the main paper regarding the CpH-MD method I'm currently using: http://jcp.aip.org/resource/1/jcpsa

Re: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread Diogo Vila Viçosa
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Constant_pH_Simulation On 7 September 2011 11:01, Emanuel Peter < emanuel.pe...@chemie.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: > At first I would like to say that I deeply apologize for > the cave-like things I have said. I again say, that this > was not the field I

Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread Emanuel Peter
At first I would like to say that I deeply apologize for the cave-like things I have said. I again say, that this was not the field I am deeply involved. >From Gerrit I got a banana. For this guy, I am a cave-man. Thanks, for being such ready for open discussion. I did not tell that I do not wa

Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-07 Thread João Henriques
There is no problem in being wrong. The problem is that he wants to be wrong. At least 4 different researchers gave constructive input and this subject keeps hitting the same key. I've always been told that worse than not knowing, is not wanting to know. Still, I apologize for my outburst. Best r

Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations (Emanuel Peter)

2011-09-06 Thread Emanuel Peter
, Gerrit. >>> Gerrit Groenhof 06.09.11 19.06 Uhr >>> > > 2. Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations (Emanuel Peter) > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:49:28 +0200 > From: "Emanuel Peter" > Subject: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-u

Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread Mark Abraham
On 7/09/2011 3:53 AM, João Henriques wrote: I guess someone has been living in a cave for the past decade or so... Please keep contributions to the mailing list constructive :-) Everyone's been wrong before! Mark -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mai

Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread João Henriques
"No forcefield on whole earth is able to reproduce the pH realistically by H+. You just can apply pH of your system through the protonation states of each part in your system." I guess someone has been living in a cave for the past decade or so... Cheers, -- João Henriques -- gmx-users mailing l

Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations (Emanuel Peter)

2011-09-06 Thread Gerrit Groenhof
> > 2. Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations (Emanuel Peter) > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:49:28 +0200 > From: "Emanuel Peter" > Subject: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations > To: > Message-ID: <4e66410802

Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Emanuel Peter wrote: The standard procedure of H+ interchange and transition states can be done through QM/MM. Please give one reference according to the algorithms you have mentioned. There are several cited at: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Constant_pH_Simulation -Justin

Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread Emanuel Peter
The standard procedure of H+ interchange and transition states can be done through QM/MM. Please give one reference according to the algorithms you have mentioned. Cheers. >>> João M. Damas 06.09.11 15.19 Uhr >>> As Justin said, constant protonation != constant pH. Constant-pH MD does not simul

Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread João M . Damas
As Justin said, constant protonation != constant pH. Constant-pH MD does not simulate H+, but allows changes in protonation states during the MD simulation. There are different algorithms to accomplish that. Cheers, João On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Emanuel Peter < emanuel.pe...@chemie.uni-re

Re: Antw: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Emanuel Peter wrote: Could you just tell me smth. ! No forcefield on whole earth is able to reproduce the pH realistically by H+. You just can apply pH of your system through the protonation states of each part in your system. Constant protonation state and constant pH are different. Gromac

Antw: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread Emanuel Peter
Could you just tell me smth. ! No forcefield on whole earth is able to reproduce the pH realistically by H+. You just can apply pH of your system through the protonation states of each part in your system. monkey. >>> João M. Damas 06.09.11 14.22 Uhr >>> That is not considered constant-pH MD.

Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread João M . Damas
That is not considered constant-pH MD. Follow Justin's suggestion. Cheers, João On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Emanuel Peter < emanuel.pe...@chemie.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: > > Look for the pKa-constants of each part of your system (e.g. each > amino-acid). > Then you can check each protonat

Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations

2011-09-06 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
fancy2012 wrote: Dear gmx users, Are there some tutorials on constant PH simulations using gromacs? How should I state my work? Right now I have no idea on it. Interestingly enough, there is a page devoted to this topic on the Gromacs wiki: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/