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> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:01:00 +0200
> From: "Emanuel Peter" <emanuel.pe...@chemie.uni-regensburg.de>
> Subject: Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Re: [gmx-users] constant PH simulations
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> At first I would like to say that I deeply apologize for 
> the cave-like things I have said. I again say, that this
> was not the field I am deeply involved.
>> From Gerrit I got a banana.
> For this guy, I am a cave-man.

No, a monkey, just like you signed one of your earlier mails.

The questions you raise are all unaswered, but extremely relevant. Futher open 
discussion is highly appreciated.


> 
> Generalized forces and averages for H+ interchange ?

The idea is that the protons are degrees of freedom. Protons can thus appear 
"spontaneously" on titrating sites. The driving force is the thermodynamic 
force: DG/Dl. More details can be foudn in the papers By Charly Brooks, JAna 
Khandogin and ourselves.

> Comparison with titration experiments ?

Not many of these around, but these will be crucial to establish the validty of 
the different approaches.

> Is there any experimental evidence for the rates of
> interchange ?

NMR maybe.

> Are simulation-times or the periods of interchange at 
> any time realistic?

Probably not.

> Are equilibria sampled well, with such interchanges,
> or are there jumps in free energy by this interchange ?

No the system follows the underlying free energy landscape always. THerefore 
there are no jumps, as one may habe in MC approaches. However, the price one 
pays is that one does sample intermediate state, in which the proton is only 
partially there.


> Why is there no free H+ ?

That would give an enormous sampling problem. Furthermore, the properties of MM 
hydroniom are very different from real hydronium

Hope this adds to the discussion.

Gerrit








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