Re: core.autocrlf, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-25 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Torsten, On Thu, 25 Aug 2016, Torsten Bögershausen wrote: > > I was not talking about the cost of correcting mistakes. Running --filters > > is potentially very costly. Just so you understand what I am talking > > about: I have a report that says that checking out a sizeable worktree > > with

Re: core.autocrlf, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-25 Thread Torsten Bögershausen
I was not talking about the cost of correcting mistakes. Running --filters is potentially very costly. Just so you understand what I am talking about: I have a report that says that checking out a sizeable worktree with core.autocrlf=true is 58% slower than with core.autocrlf=false. That is horr

Re: core.autocrlf, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-25 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Junio, On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > >> In any case, in the ideal future, I would imagine that we would want > >> to have "cat-file blob" to enable "--filters" by default; that would > >> make cat-file and hash-objects a pair of symmetric operat

Re: Git for Windows documentation, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-25 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Dakota, On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Dakota Hawkins wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Johannes Schindelin > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Dakota Hawkins wrote: > > > >> I use GFW almost exclusively, but I pretty much always consult the > >> upstream documentation anyway (because I find

Re: Git for Windows documentation, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-24 Thread Philip Oakley
From: "Dakota Hawkins" On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: Hi Dakota, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Dakota Hawkins wrote: I use GFW almost exclusively, but I pretty much always consult the upstream documentation anyway (because I find it easier). Oh... I thought that typin

Re: core.autocrlf, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-24 Thread Junio C Hamano
Johannes Schindelin writes: >> In any case, in the ideal future, I would imagine that we would want >> to have "cat-file blob" to enable "--filters" by default; that would >> make cat-file and hash-objects a pair of symmetric operations. > > I would advocate against that. It is not like the terms

Re: Git for Windows documentation, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-24 Thread Dakota Hawkins
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi Dakota, > > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Dakota Hawkins wrote: > >> I use GFW almost exclusively, but I pretty much always consult the >> upstream documentation anyway (because I find it easier). > > Oh... I thought that typing "git help gi

core.autocrlf, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-24 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Junio, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > > The feature in question is also highly unlikely to be used as much by > > non-Windows users as by Windows users due to the unfortunate choice of the > > default setting for core.autocrlf. > > My vague reco

Git for Windows documentation, was Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-24 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Dakota, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Dakota Hawkins wrote: > I use GFW almost exclusively, but I pretty much always consult the > upstream documentation anyway (because I find it easier). Oh... I thought that typing "git help git-commit" opening a nice HTML page in your favorite browser was good enou

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-24 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Junio, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > > In case it is not crystal-clear, let me clarify one very important point. > > It seems that some people mistake the work I do for something I do on a > > whim. This is not so. > > > > The patch series that

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Junio C Hamano
Johannes Schindelin writes: > The feature in question is also highly unlikely to be used as much by > non-Windows users as by Windows users due to the unfortunate choice of the > default setting for core.autocrlf. My vague recollection from some years ago was that even among those who were activ

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Dakota Hawkins
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > Junio C Hamano writes: > > > One way to avoid that risk may be to release the new feature as > > "experimental-and-subject-to-change", so that interested users on > > Windows can actually try it out to see if the feature itself > > (whate

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Junio C Hamano
Junio C Hamano writes: > One way to avoid that risk may be to release the new feature as > "experimental-and-subject-to-change", so that interested users on > Windows can actually try it out to see if the feature itself > (whatever its interface to them is) makes sense, and you can gauge > the va

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Junio C Hamano
Johannes Schindelin writes: > In case it is not crystal-clear, let me clarify one very important point. > It seems that some people mistake the work I do for something I do on a > whim. This is not so. > > The patch series that triggered this entire unfortunate discussion > introduced the --smudg

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Michael, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > > Maybe you want to re-read what you wrote to trigger his response, and > > consider adjusting your attitude ("I want this now so I'll release it in > > Git4Win") rather than the downst

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Michael, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Maybe you want to re-read what you wrote to trigger his response, and > consider adjusting your attitude ("I want this now so I'll release it in > Git4Win") rather than the downstream name. I am working *very* hard on improving the user

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Michael J Gruber
Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 23.08.2016 15:54: > Hi Duy, > > On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Duy Nguyen wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Johannes Schindelin >> wrote: >>> Hi Junio, >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote: >>> Johannes Schindelin writes: >> An

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-23 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi Duy, On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Duy Nguyen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Johannes Schindelin > wrote: > > Hi Junio, > > > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > >> Johannes Schindelin writes: > >> > >> >> And then your "git cat-file" patch can be upstreamed with the option

Re: [git-for-windows] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git for Windows 2.9.3

2016-08-22 Thread Duy Nguyen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi Junio, > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> Johannes Schindelin writes: >> >> >> And then your "git cat-file" patch can be upstreamed with the option >> >> renamed to (or with an additional synonym) "--filters", which