On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:27:09 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:13:28 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > > Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or worst case,
> > > delete my direct email manually yourself) in your email program.
&g
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:41:54 +0100
"J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> On Fri, March 21, 2014 12:59, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:50:23 +0100
> > "J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> >
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> Please reply to list. No need
g list etiquette requires people to CC all the people
involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case
any of them is not subscribed."
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e of that, you can make it whatever you
want to be nearly unlimited (other than by available manpower). :)
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entire thread; I'm not sure,
but can you let us know if the problem is resolved and how?
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e part under reveals that you need
to increase the backtracking value and try again (if no blocker).
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it is hardware.
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:11:25 +0100
eroen wrote:
> One would hope (mostly for their image's sake) the gnome team does
> not remove gnome-settings-daemon-2 until at least one of
> cinnamon-settings-daemon and mate-settings-daemon are included in
> gentoo proper.
+ 05 Mar
morrow.
>
> On this list, you (people who insist on CC-ing the world) are the
> minority.
On this world, this list (where people that I can count on my fingers
insist on not being CC-ed) is a minority.
Regardless of both being a minority, they'll continue to be present.
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so, please file a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org
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such that the maintainers
are aware of this? That is, only if it is still reproducible today.
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l/gentoo-sources` in the
installation; it is a slotted package, it only brings in the latest
visible version.
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s of people tell you to do something that conflicts, which one
would be picked? Well, pick the one that respects our etiquette; and
along that, the same one guarantees that my time is spent wise.
Similarly, would you spend time to keep asking this everytime it happens
by one or another individu
one. Sometimes they ask a question, but receive
no answer so they are gone 20 or 30 minutes later. Similarly; we're now
a month later in this ML thread, who says people are still subscribed?
On IRC, if you pay notice to the many join/part/quits and don't filter
them, you can still spot that
for details.
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xample procmail rule, as well as
my mail client, neither of both do that here.
> Do you see what I'm getting at?
No; I don't see why I should stop following the mailing list etiquette,
start relying on possibly wasting time as well as break what is fixed.
But yes; for convenience
guaranteed to
be useful, I respect that you don't want to be CC-ed in follow-up mails.
Similarly; if someone is off-list; it takes a single mail to keep me
from sending additional mails. As it clarifies a disengagement; that
unsubscribing is meant to be a disengagement, I can't find that
are still awaiting a reply; the only respectful guarantee that works
for the both of us is if the user states a solution was found and/or
addresses me to send no further emails, that gives guarantees.
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he time to do it.
My past commits were spent on bringing MATE to the Portage tree; if I
would work on a logind implementation, there wouldn't be MATE.
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:56:17 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:15:49 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > Here's something that works for the both of us: Request someone to
> > not CC you in a follow-up mail when you catch them do it, they'll
> >
mention that.
Yes, I am inconsistent with *THIS* mailing list; let's change things to
make such inconsistency unnecessary, to fix this forever and always.
Otherwise we'll continue to get responses like these
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/273297
while we could ju
t/him.
> >>
> >> If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only.
> >>
> >> If someone says something which is*technically* wrong,
> >> just correct the facts without getting personal.
>
> > I don't read every message but who is persona
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300
luis jure wrote:
>
> el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió:
>
> > How to set this up per folder?
>
> rigth-click on the folder, "Properties..." -> "Compose" -> "default
> to:"
Thank you v
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:38:54 +0100
Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300
> luis jure wrote:
>
> >
> > el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió:
> >
> > > How to set this up per folder?
> >
> > rigth-click on the
n script, you might need to use
strace and/or ltrace to discover which Python script this is.
A next step could be to use a debugger on that Python script if the
trace, strace and/or ltrace are insufficient to reveal the cause.
When you have found the cause, can you file the details in a bug at
https:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:29:20 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Will, since Tom finally got the point and changed his email program to
> not CC his replies, it seems to me that Tanstaaf, others and myself
> were right.
It is based on preventing those off-topic replies from being made. I'm
still
k again; if that's the case, I suggest you to
consider a git bisect between the two releases to find the bad commit:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect
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ette requires people to CC all the people
involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case
any of them is not subscribed."
— http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Procmail
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:35:06 +0100
Karol wrote:
> -- listname+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org
> B.S.
Replace listname by gentoo-user; to unsubscribe, send that mail to:
gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org
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hat was done; I always intend to follow the rules.
Sorry; I hope you see where this approach came from, I'm not trying to
override a majority or intentionally act different than the community.
Sorry again; thank you for your understanding.
PS: To make it clear that I stopped: The last
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:35:20 +0100
null_ptr wrote:
> On 23/03/14 11:06, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> Switching to the old kernel fixed it so I bisected the linux-stable
> sources (as in the wiki) and the first bad commit is bd450dcc357.
> Attached is the bisect.log.
> Since it seems lik
nt with the output of `emerge --info` and
attach build.log as well as config.log? Thank you in advance.
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- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Beautiful_bug_reports
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bugzilla_HOWTO
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4951 Apr 20
> 2012 /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb
>
> What now?
It can't load what is on line 30 of that file; there'll be a require
instruction, and that require instruction would bring in another file.
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:44:23 +
Mick wrote:
> On Monday 24 Mar 2014 21:28:56 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:23:55 +
> >
> > Mick wrote:
> > > /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:30:in `require': cannot load
> > > such file -- ru
ython2_7 from PYTHON_TARGETS but then
> I cannot re-install portage although it is based on Python3.
Why is this? Can you share us the log or output of that?
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dependencies; that way, it doesn't create the conflict you saw.
(Backtracking 9001 so it is sufficiently high to not cause conflicts)
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package is 2.x-only, you'll need to
build its dependencies with 2.x too for it to be able to function.
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SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Can you attach the complete build.log?
PS: Note that I'm the maintainer of app-editors/retext.
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vide the build log such that I can reproduce and fix it.
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 13:15:59 +0800
林守磊 wrote:
> @all
>
> I found that is a bug from package pygments-1.6_p20140324, and I
> downgrade to 1.6-r1. problem solved !
>
> @Tom that mean pygments-1.6_p20140324 do not support python3_2, thank
> you a lot
Indeed. Bugs appear to
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
>
> I'm sure this is way more trivial than I'm making it out to be, but how in
> the world would one converty /etc/init.d/dmesg to a systemd service file? Is
> there a good online pointer about building service files?
Rather than create a se
Stefan G. Weichinger xunil.at> writes:
> Am 31.03.2014 14:17, schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan:
>> On 31-Mar-2014 5:45 pm, "Stefan G. Weichinger" xunil.at>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Aside from all the discussions around systemd, I simply gave the new
>>> systemd-networkd a try.
>>>
>>> It helped me to simplify m
tiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
Did you upgrade your system (`emerge -auvDN @world`) prior to this?
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 06.04.2014 15:02, schrieb Tom H:
>
>>> So the openrc-example might be simplified? ok with me ... does anyone
>>> confirm?
>>
>> It depends how you set up your network on the qemu command line.
&
drive with your car (use Perl apps);
you need a certificate that your car is alright (perl-cleaner), but for
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necessarily fix up blockers by lack of backtracking.
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:25:31 +0100
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I just wanted to save some time and confusion for anyone wanting to
> dip a toe into the muddy snort waters.
You can file a bug to have the page update or be marked as outdated.
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you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files.
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:51:39 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
> seems alright except virtual/init
That is a virtual that is no longer used, it is thus safe to remove.
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Facu Curti wrote:
> Hi all. First at all i apologize if my english is not enough.
> When I installed gentoo, I do that with UEFI, and gpt partitions. But
> right now, I tried to install XEN, and this not works with EFI. I cant
> wait until somebody fix this probl
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am 12.04.2014 12:45, schrieb Facu Curti:
>>
>> Partition Table: gpt
>
> :
> This
You can have a gpt partition table with BIOS but if you want to boot
from that disk, you need a bios_boot partition (which the OP has) for
grub to embed
t; How could i do to have again a . in the numpad ?
Your keymap might have changed.
You can set it back correctly using the following HOWTO:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/HOWTO#Keyboard_layout_for_the_console
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e that versions before 8.035 don't
support Linux 3.8 or later; so, you'll want to add net-misc/r8168
to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords to emerge a later version.
As Linux <3.8 is becoming older with time, I filed a stabilization bug:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507518
further.
Although besides that problem, it otherwise does work quite well here;
if not, feel free to inform and we can try to further improve matching.
(PS: Yes, it's quite hackish, no shebang, no POSIX compliance; it is
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d or whether a bug at the Bugzilla needs to be filed.
To spare extra mail, also attach `emerge --info` output and other logs
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 14:47:05 +0200
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> So...is there a recent workaround for this problem?
Which problem is this? Can you link us to the specific bug?
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Params-Check-0.360.0 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta-1.440.400 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Perl-OSType-1.2.0-r1 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.260.0 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.980.0-r2 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-versi
ink how many
> things I've missed in the past.
No problem; be happy to now know you don't need that what misses. :)
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eaders on a pastebin / gist.
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:58:05 -0400
Chris Walters wrote:
> On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
> > Chris Walters wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:
> >>> I tried to post a messag
u don't want in /etc/portage/package.mask; see `man
portage` for details, but for example if you don't want 337.12 or newer,
you would do something like this:
/etc/portage/package.mask:
>=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
Then doing `emerge -u x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers` will down
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:39:09 +0200
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Tom Wijsman [14-04-15 19:36]:
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:59:19 +0200
> > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >
> > > Alan McKinnon [14-04-15 17:33]:
> > > To exegrate the whole discussion:
> >
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:39:16 +0100
Stroller wrote:
> What is mcelog, and why do I need it, please?
Machine check exception logger; iotw, it logs hardware errors.
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:39:22 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 April 2014, at 3:44 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:39:16 +0100
> > Stroller wrote:
> >
> >> What is mcelog, and why do I need it, please?
> >
> > Mac
When you plan to do Gentoo, spend some time on avoiding much writes to
the SD card if possible; put /var/tmp/portage on external drive, etc...
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:14:27 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 April 2014, at 4:52 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
> >
> > There is no such indication in that reply. That is up to you to
> > decide.
>
> Well, I posted here looking for useful answers
You nee
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:11:38 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 April 2014, at 5:41 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
> > ...
> >> I guess I'll just file a vapid-one bug that my Gentoo system is
> >> generating these cron messages, rather than first trying to com
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:13:57 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 April 2014, at 2:32 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Do you seriously consider it up for debate whether or not it's a
> >> bug, when daily error messages are produced and emaile
lipse/
[2] http://gpo.zugaina.org/dev-util/eclipse-sdk-bin
[3] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Layman
[4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325271#c159
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he java overlay works here; I recommend that.
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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> I've got another thread going called...
> "Strange behaviour with LILO on new install on old laptop". Before I
> file a bug report, I want to check first whether it's my fault. Can
> people here do me a favour? If you have a Gentoo install
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday 19 Apr 2014 07:43:18 Walter Dnes wrote:
>>
>> I've got another thread going called...
>> "Strange behaviour with LILO on new install on old laptop". Before I
>> file a bug report, I want to check first whether it's my fault. Can
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Callen wrote:
> On 04/12/2014 08:19 AM, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You can have a gpt partition table with BIOS but if you want to boot from
>> that disk, you need a
>> bios_boot partition (which the OP has) for grub to embed a binar
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:24:17AM -0400, Tom H wrote
>>
>> I symlink "/proc/self/mounts" to "/etc/mtab".
>>
>> But the handbook has "grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab".
>
&
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 09:38:44AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote
>> On Monday 21 Apr 2014 00:55:56 yac wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 13:54:07 +0100
>>> Peter Humphrey wrote:
The installation handbook used to include a command to
4-07.xml
Perhaps all you need to do is restart the Apache service?
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ry I'm unsure if this can be debugged...
> Any advice? Should I look for a binary on the eclipse site?
Yes, try one from the Eclipse site and put it in /opt/ (create symlinks
in /usr/local/bin/); there is 4.3 there, I think we need to bump to
that in the Java overlay at some point as 4
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> Box boots now with kernel 3.14.1 and with commented LVs in fstab.
>
> When I login and check there are no mdadm-raids assembled.
>
> When I "mdadm -A --scan" they get correctly assembled:
>
> # cat /proc/mdstat
> Personalities : [raid
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:48 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Sunday, May 04, 2014 01:15:51 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
* SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start
any raid arrays they find and apply their own
the rate control algorithm these days...
As for your disconnects, I think they are due to nl80211 and/or your
network and/or router configuration; but it might very well be due to
that same bug above, in which case I guess you'll have to wait a bit to
see whether the debugging and r
sk (something like
*/*::funtoo) and then unmask that kernel in /etc/portage/package.unmask
Merging more than what you need from overlays is a recipe for disaster.
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> changed from the previous version to the current one.
>
> So I generated an initramfs with
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> Do I still need these lines .. especially with a modern
> systemd/gnome3-environment?
>
> # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
> # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
> # (tmpfs is a dynamically e
ke ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~x86"
which might result in something that lists all the stable ones as well.
Negating x86 with - could be a possible solution; however, I wonder if
that's what you want as some packages have only stable versions.
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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 21.05.2014 15:31, schrieb Tom H:
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>>
>>> Do I still need these lines .. especially with a modern
>>> systemd/gnome3-environment?
&
olution?
Yes; it allows ~x86 versions, while not disallowing x86 versions.
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RS= "/.../" matches paragraphs; as
the record separator is empty, it takes the blank lines.
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On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Any suggestions appreciated.
Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`?
(-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot)
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opic seems to suggest it happens in such case:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-977526-start-0.html
Thus can you try enabling that extension?
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On Sat, 24 May 2014 05:40:37 -0400
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> OK, how do I enable that extension?
Change it from false to true; alternatively, just remove the line
and/or the surrounding section.
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cause you shutdown GDM; it might be
more clear if you capture a log where you don't shutdown GDM, as then
the last messages would be much more related to the problem at hand.
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g or error,
but instead as an input / graphical problem.
Can you try a different version of GNOME? A newer might have fixed it.
If you need instructions on how to switch between specific version,
feel free to let me know. I'll try to figure out the sequence to switch
between users later
t regardless of whether you have it or not.
(Festival is a Text to Speech engine)
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Desc
s "Not listed here?"; then it'll prompt for
username, after which it'll prompt for password.
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files/ChangeLog:
01 Jun 2014; Pacho Ramos package.mask:
Unmask Gnome 3.12
Yes, it did; now available in testing arches (eg. ~x86), given it has
just been added it'll take a while before this is stable (eg. x86).
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uration for the package and re-compilation for no underlying file
change on disk. This should be avoided and instead can be conveyed to
the user via post install messages if needed."
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags
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ions happen sooner
or later in one place or the other. Which becomes visible over time...
The manpower that we have to keep implications away are limited; to
make a change to those implications, one could write code as suggested.
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:17:21 -0400
Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
MATE 1.6 is stable in the Portage tree, MATE 1.8 is testing in the
Portage tree; both had their upower dependencies fixed up days ago.
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x27;t happen from one day to
the other; while trying to keep a fork upower-pm-utils alive as long as
it can be kept working given the manpower, kernel API and so on...
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