Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

On 17/12/2014 09:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 12/17/2014 06:48:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >> Is it possible, to do ONE call to emerge, which asks (according >> to option -a, if set ) and given a yes first fetches ALL necessary >> files and data and compiles then everything? >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

Alan McKinnon [14-12-17 09:24]: > On 17/12/2014 09:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > On 12/17/2014 06:48:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >> Is it possible, to do ONE call to emerge, which asks (according > >> to option -a, if set ) and given a yes first fetches ALL necessary > >> files a

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

On 17/12/2014 10:41, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon [14-12-17 09:24]: >> On 17/12/2014 09:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>> On 12/17/2014 06:48:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Is it possible, to do ONE call to emerge, which asks (according to option -a, if set ) and g

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: > >> Try cleaning the vents. >> >> Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop >> is >> on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. >> >> If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:05 PM, walt wrote: > > systemd puts /tmp on a tmpfs by default. True, but there was pushback by Fedora developers when this became the default so Lennart patched systemd for a "/tmp" mount in "/etc/fstab" to override "/lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount". A pseudo-policy (pse

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

> > > What would you consider better support? > The way it works currently is how it's working with MS Windows (as > provided by > NVidia). What I mean by better support is easy install and configuration. In the Windows I just install the driver and the driver is responsible for offloading or swi

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 07:53:53 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Note that says parallel-fetch not build. From the man page: > > > > > > parallel-fetch: Fetch in the background while compiling. Run `tail > > > -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log` in a terminal to view parallel-fetch > > > progress.

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

> > > You need bumblebee. Otherwise it's not possible to use the Nvidia > Optimus chip. I think that it is possible, or supposed to be possible! The gentoo wiki says that Nvidia drivers are now supporting the optimus, so it is called "native optimus support" > > I just waned to use optimus with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > James writes: >> >> OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which >> I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother >> fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde. > > Not sure I fol

Re: [gentoo-user] bruning pictures (jpeg) to DVD

On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:28:45 -0700, Joseph wrote: > I used "imagination" to make slideshow (VOB) and it worked OK. > But when I tried DeVeDe to make ISO it will not do it; this software is > a crap. Such detailed error reports don't make helping you easy. I just created a slideshow VOB with Imag

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:53:10 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: > > What would you consider better support? > > The way it works currently is how it's working with MS Windows (as > > provided by > > NVidia). > > What I mean by better support is easy install and configuration. In the > Windows

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 01:09:16 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: > > You need bumblebee. Otherwise it's not possible to use the Nvidia > > Optimus chip. > > I think that it is possible, or supposed to be possible! > The gentoo wiki says that Nvidia drivers are now supporting the optimus, so > i

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

Neil Bothwick [14-12-17 10:40]: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 07:53:53 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > > Note that says parallel-fetch not build. From the man page: > > > > > > > > parallel-fetch: Fetch in the background while compiling. Run `tail > > > > -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log` in a te

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

On Tuesday 16 December 2014 20:18:10 James wrote: > I caught the beginning with a CTRL-S and CTRL-Q are also very useful. Sometimes you have to be pretty quick on the keys, though. -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Neil Bothwick [14-12-17 10:40]: >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 07:53:53 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> > Note that says parallel-fetch not build. From the man page: > > parallel-fetch: Fetch in the background while compiling. Run `tail > -f /var/log/eme

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 16 December 2014 20:18:10 James wrote: > >> I caught the beginning with a > CTRL-S and CTRL-Q are also very useful. Sometimes you have to be pretty > quick on the keys, though. > Do you have a link that lists all those options? I'd like to read up on that some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

On Wednesday 17 December 2014 04:03:48 Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 December 2014 20:18:10 James wrote: > >> I caught the beginning with a > > > > CTRL-S and CTRL-Q are also very useful. Sometimes you have to be pretty > > quick on the keys, though. > > Do you have a lin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

On Wednesday 17 December 2014 10:11:22 I wrote: > On Wednesday 17 December 2014 04:03:48 Dale wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Tuesday 16 December 2014 20:18:10 James wrote: > > >> I caught the beginning with a > > > > > > CTRL-S and CTRL-Q are also very useful. Sometimes you have to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

On 17/12/2014 11:03, Dale wrote: > Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: >> >>> Try cleaning the vents. >>> >>> Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop >>> is >>> on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. >>> >>> If the temp

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

Am 17.12.2014 um 07:35 schrieb J. Roeleveld: > What issues did you experience? Honestly I don't remember anymore. But nouveau never worked well for me, maybe missing 3D performance or even support or other issues. I just switched to nvidia-drivers and had no problems. But it's a while ago that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

Am 17.12.2014 um 10:39 schrieb behrouz khosravi: > I think that it is possible, or supposed to be possible! > The gentoo wiki says that Nvidia drivers are now supporting the optimus, so > it is called "native optimus support" That's only true for the Windows version of the Nvidia driver, not for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

Harry Putnam wrote: > Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu > item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem > to imply. > > You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo. > So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 17 December 2014 10:11:22 I wrote: >> On Wednesday 17 December 2014 04:03:48 Dale wrote: >>> Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2014 20:18:10 James wrote: > I caught the beginning with a CTRL-S and CTRL-Q are also very useful. Sometimes

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 17/12/2014 11:03, Dale wrote: >> Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: >>> Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Tom H wrote: > > A pseudo-policy (pseudo since it wasn't, AFAIK, an official policy) > was instituted whereby applications that were creating large files in > "/tmp" should be patched to use "/var/tmp". > This has been the norm on Gentoo for ages - this is why pac

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:49:08 AM Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 17.12.2014 um 10:39 schrieb behrouz khosravi: > > I think that it is possible, or supposed to be possible! > > The gentoo wiki says that Nvidia drivers are now supporting the optimus, > > so > > it is called "native optimus support

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:52:44 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Yes, thats it: First download all stuff THEN start compiling. > > > > Why? The downloads will happen at the same rate but you'll have a head > > start on the compiling. The only disadvantage i can see is that you > > will not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:57:51 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I caught the beginning with a > > CTRL-S and CTRL-Q are also very useful. Sometimes you have to be pretty > quick on the keys, though. Or run the command with script. -- Neil Bothwick Three kinds of people: Those who can count

Re: [gentoo-user] convert VOB to ISO

> On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:57, Joseph wrote: > > How to convert VOB to ISO? I want to burn it to DVD > I'm using XFCE and was looking for a GUI application but I can not find one, > I've tired DeVeDe but it didn't work. What you need is DVD-author. These are rare now a days. Here is a list: http:

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

> On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:37, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > > When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put > it into the fridge ;-) > > This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. > > Not to be tried at home ;-) This is hilarious ;D --

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

> On Dec 17, 2014, at 12:56, Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 17/12/2014 11:03, Dale wrote: >>> Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > Try cleaning the vents. > > Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

On 12/17/2014 02:46 PM, Matti Nykyri wrote: Because the temperature of the laptop in the freezer will always be above dew point it will never get wet. When you take it out though it's temperature will most likely be below dew point of the ambient air so water will condensate Right. Which is wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

"J. Roeleveld" writes: > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 05:46:30 PM Erik Mackdanz wrote: >> Heiko Baums writes: >> > I don't know if, but I don't think that, it will work with >> > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau. >> >> I used bumblebee for quite a while. It worked okay, but every upgrade I >> w

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

> On Dec 17, 2014, at 14:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:52:44 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Yes, thats it: First download all stuff THEN start compiling. If I were you, I would setup your pc to do cross-compiling of your arietta's packages and build them into

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 07:16:54 AM Erik Mackdanz wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 05:46:30 PM Erik Mackdanz wrote: > >> Heiko Baums writes: > >> > I don't know if, but I don't think that, it will work with > >> > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau. > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

Hi, Heiko Baums writes: > It's not possible, because the Nvidia Optimus chip isn't a full featured > graphics card, and doesn't write directly to the screen. Joost already > explained it pretty well. I'm using a T530 with Optimus. I can only external monitors only with the NVidia-Card, not with

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

Matti Nykyri [14-12-17 15:00]: > > On Dec 17, 2014, at 14:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:52:44 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Yes, thats it: First download all stuff THEN start compiling. > > If I were you, I would setup your pc to do cross-compiling of

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

> > It is still easy: > emerge bumblebee > rc-update add bumblebee default > > That's all I did and it works. > > I dont consider bumblebee as a support from nvidia! With Linux, I just add "optirun " in front of the command in the > program-menu > item. > On MS Windows, I need to: > 1) Start the p

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:31 AM, wrote: > Matti Nykyri [14-12-17 15:00]: >> > On Dec 17, 2014, at 14:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:52:44 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> > >> Yes, thats it: First download all stuff THEN start compiling. >> >> If I were you,

[gentoo-user] Re: Laptop Overheat

On 2014-12-16, Randy Westlund wrote: > When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid > close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get > proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. Don't do that. ;) > If I leave it open and on a table, everything

[gentoo-user] Re: CI Continuous Integration

Sam Bishop cygnus.email> writes: > Very interesting. A great example of how something can be both Gentoo > and Not Gentoo. This is 100% Gentoo unlike Funtoo or Sabayon, but it > brings in some of their advantages. Gentoo doesn't prevent us from > having multiple package variants and this leads t

[gentoo-user] Re: Laptop Overheat

Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes: > > When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid > > close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get > > proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. > Don't do that. ;) > > If I leave it open and on a table, ever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop Overheat

James [14-12-17 16:48]: > Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes: > > > > > When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid > > > close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get > > > proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. > > > Don't do that. ;) >

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

James writes: > Harry Putnam newsguy.com> writes: > > >> James tampabay.rr.com> writes: >> > lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] >> > lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] >> Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to >> the question. > > > OK, if that is true, who is answering

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

Thanasis wrote: > On 12/17/2014 02:46 PM, Matti Nykyri wrote: >> Because the temperature of the laptop in the freezer >> will always be above dew point it will never get wet. >> When you take it out though it's temperature will most likely be >> below dew point of the ambient air so water will cond

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

Hi, Stefan G. Weichinger writes: > When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put > it into the fridge ;-) > > This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Haha, this whole thread reminded me of this XKCD: Regards, -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

Harry Putnam wrote: > James writes: > >> Harry Putnam newsguy.com> writes: >> >> >>> James tampabay.rr.com> writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] >>> Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to >>> the question. >> >> OK, if t

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

Raffaele BELARDI writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu >> item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem >> to imply. >> >> You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo. >> So do you see the

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

Harry Putnam writes: > For your information: Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane > group from Jonathan Thibault . Whoops forgot to attach Jonathan's message: >From nobody Wed Dec 17 12:33:39 2014 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Thibault Newsgroups: gmane.comp.deskto

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

Dale writes: > What was supposed to be attached again? ;-) > > Dale hehe... after noticing my `senior moment, I did repost to include the attachement ... I don't see it on the group, perhaps no attachments are allowed... Here is it is inline: --- --- ---=--- ---

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:18:54PM +, Mick wrote: > There may be nothing wrong with your configuration, but something wrong with > the design of your laptop. Some laptops are not designed particularly well > with regards to ventilation. In the summer I have a desk fan which I turn on > and

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 07:37:24AM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put > it into the fridge ;-) > > This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. > > Not to be tried at home ;-) Hahaha, I've actu

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 09:41:06AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > With some manual operations: > > > > > > Capture the output of emerge -vp > > > Edit it to call > > > ebuild .ebuild> fetch > > > for each package. > > > > > > Then issue emerge without -p > > > > > > Way too complicat

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

Harry Putnam wrote: > Dale writes: > >> What was supposed to be attached again? ;-) >> >> Dale > hehe... after noticing my `senior moment, I did repost to include the > attachement ... I don't see it on the group, perhaps no attachments > are allowed... > > Here is it is inline: > > ---

[gentoo-user] akonadi-server upgrade desaster

Hi folks, it seems there's no way for me to upgrade my akonadi-server 1.11.0 to 1.12.x or 1.13.x. I am using an external MySQL for years, but it fails to upgrade the tables nor will it recreate them without errors if I drop them all. All I can do is to downgrade to 1.11.0 again and restore the

[gentoo-user] firefox.bin vs firefox

Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs firefox?

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox.bin vs firefox

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs firefox? > > There are advantages to both, really, since firefox-bin uses a pre-built executable (with a pre-defined set of compile-time options), while firefox builds from s

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox.bin vs firefox

On 18/12/2014 04:45, Harry Putnam wrote: > Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs firefox? Depends on your needs: firefox: - pro: you get all the USE flags - pro: you don't get bundled libs from Mozilla, the ebuild can use system libs - pro: the compiled binaries are

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

;-) Yes, nice. To explain: I only let the thinkpad in there for maybe 10 minutes or so ... So the risk is minimized, I assume. Am 17. Dezember 2014 18:44:37 MEZ, schrieb Christian Kruse : >Hi, > >Stefan G. Weichinger writes: > >> When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I somet

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] convert VOB to ISO

On 12/17/14 14:24, Matti Nykyri wrote: On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:57, Joseph wrote: How to convert VOB to ISO? I want to burn it to DVD I'm using XFCE and was looking for a GUI application but I can not find one, I've tired DeVeDe but it didn't work. What you need is DVD-author. These are rare no

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox.bin vs firefox

On 12/17/2014 04:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 18/12/2014 04:45, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs firefox? > Depends on your needs: > > firefox: > - pro: you get all the USE flags > - pro: you don't get bundled libs from Mozilla, the ebu

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge matplotlib-1.3.0 fails

On 12/17/2014 03:46 AM, rhan...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > When emergin matplotlib (as dependency of ipython) it fails with the > following error: > > src/_png.cpp:264:13: error: 'npy_PyFile_DupClose' was not declared in > > Full output of build.log, emerge --info and emerge -pqv is attached I bel

[gentoo-user] Re: firefox.bin vs firefox

Alan McKinnon writes: > On 18/12/2014 04:45, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs firefox? > > Depends on your needs: > > firefox: > - pro: you get all the USE flags > - pro: you don't get bundled libs from Mozilla, the ebuild can use > system

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox.bin vs firefox

Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > > On 12/17/2014 04:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 18/12/2014 04:45, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs > >> firefox? > > Depends on your needs: > > > > firefox: > > - pro: you get all the USE flags > > -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: firefox.bin vs firefox

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 01:46:45AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > > On 18/12/2014 04:45, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Is there any advantage one way or the other emerging firefox.bin vs > >> firefox? > > > > Depends on your needs: > > […] > > firefox-bin: > > […] > > - con: p

[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia and optimus

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:49:08 +0330 behrouz khosravi wrote: > > On MS Windows, I need to: > > 1) Start the program > > 2) Stop the program > > 3) Configure the driver to use the NVidia chipset for the program > > (It doesn't > > show in the list before I start it once) > > > > It seems that I was

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

On Dec 16, 2014 2:38 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 02:12:06 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: > > Hello everyone. > > I was trying to get native optimus support for my laptop using the Nvidia > > driver, but after startx the screen goes black for some several seconds and > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CI Continuous Integration

Great response, but I just have to express my difference of opinion here. > Gentoo will never be easy, > but it is a very flexible and through solution for many areas of need. That flexibility means we who chose to participate in 'building' Gentoo have the power to make it as flexible as we want.

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi-server upgrade desaster

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2014 19:13:03 Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi folks, > > it seems there's no way for me to upgrade my akonadi-server 1.11.0 to > 1.12.x or 1.13.x. I am using an external MySQL for years, but it fails to > upgrade the tables nor will it recreate them without errors if I drop them > al

[gentoo-user] What is the correct way to remove an old gcc-version (emerge --depclean) ?

Hi, on my embedded system I currently ran into a problem: As adviced after a greater world update I did emerge --depclean -vp beside other stuff sys-devel/gcc was shown as candidate for removal. An old version was shown for removal and a newer one was shown as preserved. I checked with es